Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Per TRS, the trope has been retooled to match offsite usage of the expression:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16860145680.82354500&page=2#comment-41
I don't see how "* Word of God implies this for Jedi in some eras of the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Sex is not forbidden, but attachment is. Think on that for a second."
Is remotely relevant to this trope, or even the Fringe Horror trope referenced to the end. "Think on that for a second" They have one night stands, so what?
How is this trope different from Marital Rape License? Is there even a distinction? The trope description says "For the trope about wives "putting up with" sex they don't actually want, see Marital Rape License" but if a woman was having sex because she wanted to (and not because she was putting up with it) than it wouldn't really count as Lie Back And Thinkof England.
I'm just curious as to what the difference is?
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The difference is that this one is consensual, it's just that the woman doesn't like it. That trope is about nonconsensual intercourse being treated as OK if it happens within a marriage.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ah, so Lie Back And Thinkof England is for when a wife begrudgingly consents, while Marital Rape License is when a wife is forced without consent.
How would it be established in a story whether or not a wife was being raped by her husband or consenting begrudgingly?
Also, the descriptions for both tropes are confusing. The description for Marital Rape License includes the line "On occasion (though not necessarily), this trope overlaps with Lie Back and Think of England, where sex is just another chore instead of something done for mutual pleasure."
The description doesn't match how I thought of the phrase being used - this is a trope that honestly *surprises* me with it's definition, and I’m not sure I agree with it.
My understanding of the phrase was always more 'do it for the greater good': That it applies where a person has married without affection for political or social reasons, and the actual mechanics of marriage are distasteful therefore. It's not necessarily that they don't think women can enjoy sex - it's that they don't expect to enjoy it in this marriage, because affection and attraction were not part of the reason they married. (Or are having sex: Occasionally it gets used when the person in question is a spy or something, and expected to have sex as part of a role they need to play.)
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Online sources use the current page definition as far as I can tell.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Am I the only person who started laughing at how ironic it is that some fangirls really do think of England - but would be the exact opposite of this trope?
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No.
I didn't think of it until now, but I definitely laughed!
Evil is my favorite color.
I came here specifically to say that. I've had hetalia on the brain today.
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What does the picture have to do with...anything? I don't even get it from the caption... I mean, it's England, but it took me a second to even get that—and I'm guessing, I only know of the show from this wiki.
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Lie Back and Think of England Nevermind. Thought this was a different page. IDK either.
There is a Lie Back and Think of England page and a Lie Back And T Hink Of England page, both of which are the same but the latter comes out looking wrong when people write it out.
Was the former page image from Hetalia? That would explain a lot...and certainly wouldn't be this trope...
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