Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Repair, turn subjective or rename
, started by MagBas on Jul 26th 2011 at 8:21:37 PM
Is it possible for insane people to be capable of kicking the dog, or since Kick The Dog is a term for committing a cruel, spiteful action that is unnecessary or detrimental to the villain's plans and insane people generally don't think about that, does it not apply?
The page doesn't have a "Real Life" section (probably for good reason, really), but I thought I'd drop this here - a literal case of "kicking the dog": http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/8/28/video_of_ceo_kicking.html
Yes, we don't want to list Real Life examples for villain tropes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I think this page needs the following Alfred Hitchcock quote: "In the old days villains had moustaches and kicked the dog. Audiences are smarter today. They don't want their villain to be thrown at them with green limelight on his face. They want an ordinary human being with failings." — Alfred Hitchcock
Many sources, here's one: http://books.google.com/books?id=5fPEQl7I5H0C&lpg=PA174&ots=H90JVWPqFZ&dq=In%20the%20old%20days%20villains%20had%20moustaches%20and%20kicked%20the%20dog.%20Audiences%20are%20smarter%20today.%20They%20don%27t%20want%20their%20villain%20to%20be%20thrown%20at%20them%20with%20green%20limelight%20on%20his%20face.%20They%20want%20an%20ordinary%20human%20being%20with%20failings.&pg=PA174#v=onepage&q=In%20the%20old%20days%20villains%20had%20moustaches%20and%20kicked%20the%20dog.%20Audiences%20are%20smarter%20today.%20They%20don't%20want%20their%20villain%20to%20be%20thrown%20at%20them%20with%20green%20limelight%20on%20his%20face.%20They%20want%20an%20ordinary%20human%20being%20with%20failings.&f=false
Is there a trope like "I kicked the dog, and the dog won"?
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This page is getting pretty long. Anyone else think it should be divided into sub-pages?
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I think so too. Considering this is the trope for villain dick moves and Moral Event Horizon, its sister trope, has already gotten the subpage treatment, I think it's pretty much time we did so.
The intro has this weirdly specific claim:
"One possible origin of the trope name comes from Westerns, where three bandits would ride into the town, one would shoot the Sheriff, one would shoot the Deputy, and one, just to prove he was also a bad guy, would Kick The Dog."
Is this actually true, or just something someone made up, or only happened once or twice? I don't think anybody's seen every Western ever, but I don't think I've ever seen this particular combination personally.