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jsymons Since: Apr, 2016
Dec 24th 2016 at 4:43:01 AM •••

The Downton Abbey entry contains an inaccuracy as it refers to LNER teak carriages, however the location used for filming owns no LNER carriages so these where likely the Metropolitan set and various 4 and 6 wheel carriages.

Additionally it might be worth adding to the section that one of the locomotives shown hauling passenger trains was a locomotive in SECR freight livery (despite the ornate livery), certainly not something seen hauling passenger trains on the LNER network.

Edited by jsymons
SteelKomodo Since: Mar, 2013
Mar 8th 2014 at 3:29:11 PM •••

I was thinking the Spirit Tracks example was justified,since it's a magical train and therefore doesn't have to follow the same rules real-life trains do. Discuss?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 9th 2014 at 12:40:54 AM •••

That would be natter if put into the main page.

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SteelKomodo Since: Mar, 2013
Mar 27th 2014 at 6:06:33 AM •••

Even so, we can't just call BS on it because it doesn't function like a normal train. I don't care if it's natter. Somebody is clearly expecting too much from a cartoon fantasy game if they're going to point out something which can easily be Justified or Handwaved.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Mar 27th 2014 at 7:33:08 AM •••

Considering the Spirit Train is, well, a Spirit Train, most of the complaints make zero sense. However, the idea that absolutely no attempts were made to make the trains in general terribly realistic is notable.

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SteelKomodo Since: Mar, 2013
Mar 30th 2014 at 9:40:47 AM •••

So how would one phrase that if we were to re-word the example? Something along the lines of "Partially justified since it's a Spirit Train, but still very noticeable?" I don't know, it'd probably take a better man than I to word it correctly.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 30th 2014 at 11:43:21 AM •••

I would start off with "Even by the standard of a purely magical train system..." (I assume that the Spirit Train is a magical train). "Partially justified" still makes it look like a Justifying Edit.

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Keredis Loremaster Since: Apr, 2009
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May 18th 2012 at 3:57:03 PM •••

Do we need to do something about all the Real Life examples, given that this trope is about errors in portraying trains?

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jsiren Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 25th 2011 at 1:02:06 PM •••

In the Thomas the Tank Engine section it says: "It is not possible to build a railway line over a dam." Yes it is, and it's been done. The Isohaara dam in Kemi, Finland carries one railway track and one automobile lane with signals controlling the flow of traffic on both. It's a funny feeling to ride across: on one side the surface of the water is really close, and then on the other side there's a long (12 m) drop...

Webby Very Manly Muppet Since: Dec, 2010
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Sep 27th 2011 at 10:52:44 AM •••

Love the redirect.

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71.252.195.120 Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 18th 2010 at 7:11:15 PM •••

I know we just renamed this trope, but can't we give it a name that isn't a pun off of another existing trope?

'Failroad Tracks' keeps jumping into my mind. :)

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 8th 2010 at 12:07:11 AM •••

My thinking is this is the trope for errors depicting trains, not getting things right. Moved these examples to discussion.

  • The Runaway Train is justified in The Taking Of Pelham 123 when the emergency brake is specifically deactivated.

  • Aversion: the emergency brake kicks in at the end of the car-train chase in The French Connection.
    • That is actually caused by the failsafe signaling system which trips the brakes on the train. The Deadman Device on the train fails when the motorman passes out on top of the controller, keeping it depressed.

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