Haven't read the book, but sounds like a valid example to me.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Thanks! appreciated.
Male, early sixties, Cranky old fart, at least two decades behind. So you have been warned. Functionally illiterate in several languages.
The (more or less) Blank
If this is the opposite of Growing the Beard, how come this isn't a YMMV trope while the latter is?
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Move the examples to another page
, started by nuclearneo577 on Feb 25th 2011 at 2:55:04 AM
If Growing The Beard has actual examples, this should too.
Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin Hide / Show Replies
That one's a positive YMMV item. We don't treat these the same way as negative ones.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
You Give Me Fever
I'm pretty sure Jumping the Shark only applies to a moment that kills a show, as the original jump the shark did. If you win the crowd back, the shark was not jumped. At least that's how I remember the page being typed up before I looked at it just now. edit:It still has that same "only in hindsight", picture, which clashes with the description.
I recall nuking the fridge was rejected a long time ago, back when that then new Indiana Jones movie came out, even made into a redirect specifically to stop being using it as a separate term. So why is it being used in the description?
I think this begs a rewrite.
Edited by IndirectActiveTransport That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
Why is this page YMMV? Examples are exclusively In-Universe only so it really shouldn't be considered YMMV.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them. Hide / Show Replies
Because many of the wicks still use it as an Audience Reaction.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
So it's allowed to be wicked as an Audience Reaction?
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Preferably not, since the misuse was what restricted this page to IUEO in the first place.
135 - 161 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
Political ends as sad remains will die
Is the image supposed to have little alternating triangles of transparency and opacity?
Not right away, not right away Hide / Show Replies
No. What does it look like to you?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
It looks fine as it is on the page, but in Google search results the transparent sections are black.
Not right away, not right away
That's a screwyness in the Google search. I don't think we can do anything about it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AgProv
Still pissed off - several years on - that the original Jump The Shark website went down the tubes the way it did after it was bought out by TV Guide. who junked years of dedicated writing and site-building and kept only the name. Jump The Shark.com jumped the shark after the TV Guide buy-out and butchery...
Male, early sixties, Cranky old fart, at least two decades behind. So you have been warned. Functionally illiterate in several languages. Hide / Show Replies
Whatchu gonna do? Sadly, bad happen in life. Not sure how this is relevant to the article though.
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
Yeah, let's not turn discussion pages into Troper Tales. That is not what they are for.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Is this site going to create an article for "Nuke the Fridge"? Sorry if I didn't post this right, I'm new here.
Hide / Show Replies
This isn't the appropriate discussion area, but I'm not sure exactly what would be.
Nuke The Fridge was cut, remade, pointed to Ruined FOREVER, made into its own trope page, redirected here again... it's too controversial and is gone for good.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
You can view the article listed on the Permanent Red Link Club, which it'll likely never be delisted from.
135 - 161 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
Do we really need the caption for this trope's picture? I feel like the picture's obvious enough on its own.
Hide / Show Replies
I hate to admit it, but I actually didn't get it until I saw the Visual Pun pothole.
The real change that ruined Happy Days for many was Richie leaving and the show becoming about Joanie and Chachi. Happy Days still had plenty of it's best moments after the Shark incident.
I get that this page is for in-universe examples only, but is it okay to add examples that aren't in-universe to a work's YMMV page?
Hide / Show Replies
Chainsaw with extreme prejudice. JTS is easily the most subjective article on the site. One person's "shark jumping" moment could be another person's favorite.
Is it possible for anime to jump the shark? (I ask because I don't see any anime examples at all.) If it is possible, then I'd like to posit a possible example from the anime genre: the recent revelation in One Piece that Princess Shirahoshi is the weapon Poseidon.
Hide / Show Replies
If there are no examples please, whaddya call all the examples listed in the sections?!?
We call them in-universe references. The examples section isn't for when we think shows have jumped the shark, it's when the shows reference the trope in-universe.
Is there some reason there's no Anime and Manga section here? Just wondering.
Hide / Show Replies
It's an English-language internet meme based on a US show. The phrase probably isn't that well known in Japan.
Yes, but as has been pointed out several times, this page is only for listing in-universe references. It doesn't matter whether the viewers think a show has jumped the shark or not. And if you know any in-universe references from manga or anime, well, This Is A Wiki.
Shouldnt this have a troper tales section so we can get examples of less literal shark jumping
Hide / Show Replies
Oh, so Tropers are brainless flamers now? I don't see why not, since the So Okay, It's Average Troper Tales section has been doing well for quite a lot of time.
Yes, tropers are generally brainless flamers when given the opportunity. You'll notice that Troper Tales is no longer around.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
This page makes no sense. I understand that it's a subjective trope and examples should go on YMMV pages, but why is there an examples section at all? How can this kind of trope have In-Universe examples? Unless a character in-universe is watching a show and says "They jumped the shark, now", there is no point for an examples section. The examples listed are nothing more than Lampshade Hanging, or literal examples of people "jumping sharks", something that isn't unheard of for stunts or daredevils.
Hide / Show Replies
Yeah, there's no point in having an examples section at all. The stuff that IS there doesn't qualify for YMMV at all either.
Is it just me, or did my original response disappear? No matter.
Since the page lists examples of Lampshade Hanging (itself a valid trope), there's no harm in keeping the examples on this page. There are many examples of characters in works calling reference to the phenomenon, which in itself is an oft-used term in pop-culture lexicon.
Sounds like (as per many TVT users) you just want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The references section is fine, and doesn't need fixing.
If there are "no examples please", whaddya call all the examples listed in the sections?!? This page makes no sense.
Hide / Show Replies
Shouldn't someone add Two And A Half Men? I mean, we end up replacing Charlie, who we all can agree was the spirit of the Show....... Just to Replace him with Ashton Kutcher....
Hide / Show Replies
No. Only references to the trope are allowed.
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
The example section for this trope is a pointless joke. I motion that we remove it.
Hide / Show Replies
I, for one, do not agree with this motion.
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
In-universe examples are completely valid, and work as a way to compile all the references to the trope in popular culture.
However, as I stated last year, it is not relevant for straight examples (due to it already having failed on another site that was expressly dedicated to it).
A stranger
Who removed the page quote? I don't remember it accurately enough to reprint it, and I have no idea where it came from, but I DO remember that it was funny as hell. Is there any way to find it again?
Things of mine keep getting deleted. I curse too much. Hide / Show Replies
I replaced said quote (for future reference, recently cut stuff is normally in the history). But I think another quote might be more fitting, since what the quote is describing is probably Sequelitis.
Jump the Shark is something that, in the platonic ideal, should apply to single serial works, preferably Long-Runners. The Trope Namer happened when Reverse Cerebus Syndrome combined with the Fonz's Marty Stu status became too clear.
There is a fine line between recklessness and courage — Paul McCartney
Doesn't this trope qualify as a Subjective Trope? Very often, what one fan considers a show's shark-jumping moment, another may consider its beard-growing moment.
Hide / Show Replies
It may be a subjective trope, but that won't stop people from flooding the page (and any eventual subpages) with discussion and dissenting views on at what point a show "jumped the shark".
I used to be a user on the original JTS.com, and I saw bad things got over (in terms of both page size and arguments between users over different moments - the page for Lost was like a battlefield). Trying to integrate that sort of system into this site would require an entirely new index, and would make it the most subjective article on the site, bar none.
After Ianto and the rest of the gang were killed off brutally and without logical cause, the DW spinoffs became dead to me.
Has anyone else had a show ruined for them when their characters where chopped?
There's a scene in one of Tom Holt's novels ( Only Human) where his characters are stuck in a sort of Hell, or Purgatory (this is a repeated plot device in Holt's fantasy novels), where his own Author Avatar encounters a disgruntled fan who begins by discussing Terry Pratchett's Discworld, speaks the deadly words "It's not as good as it was when it first started out..." and then describes the moment when, in the fan's opinion, the Discworld jumped its own shark. Holt's Author Avatar then reflects, with deep gloom, that this is indeed Author Hell. (as much Author Hell as a Hell for the disgruntled fan, who is forced to live the moment over and over again)
I'm just in two minds as to whether this example belongs here or elsewhere.
Edited by AgProv Male, early sixties, Cranky old fart, at least two decades behind. So you have been warned. Functionally illiterate in several languages. Hide / Show Replies