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iamnoone Since: Feb, 2011
Jul 10th 2020 at 10:28:58 PM •••

Is there room to make a trope for something along the lines of "Informed Bond", when two or more characters express they're close friends, Like Family, but don't have any development to support this?

The Friends Who Never Hang is somewhat similar, but this isn't really explicit; they're just characters in a friend group who don't spend much time together. I'm talking explicitly about characters who act as if one particular person and them are really close but we've never seen it.

Examples:

  • Suicide Squad (2016): The film treats the team as True Companions, with El Diablo calling them a family. There's pretty much zero evidence in the entire film to justify why he'd think that, as the only person who interacts with him is Deadshot (mostly just insults), while very few of the characters have any degree of genuine characterisation besides Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Rick Flagg, and Amanda Waller.
  • Arrow Roy Harper and Oliver Queen are presented as being a protege and mentor duo, but they never actually interact much outside of their vigilante work, and Oliver doesn't seem to particularly connect with Roy the way he does Diggle, Felicity, or others in the team. This is despite Roy repeatedly gushing about Oliver's role in saving his life and how much his mentorship of him meant to him, and Oliver acting as if he lost a brother when Roy fakes his death.
    • From the same show, after her death, Diggle talks about how Laurel was like a sister to him. They had maybe two conversations in the entire show. In fact he's the one most effected by her death outside of her actual family, to the point he kills his actual brother Andy (who was responsible) and becomes so suicidal in depression. Again, despite how little they actually interacted.
  • From the spin-off, The Flash (2014), Barry Allen and Wally West describe each other as being their brother (since Barry was the foster son of Wally's estranged father Joe West, and Wally hero-worshipped the Flash before finding out he was Barry), and after gaining his own super speed Barry sort of mentors him, but isn't explicitly a very caring mentor, often treats Wally pretty terribly, and was reluctant to take him on anyway. When Wally becomes depressed over feeling like the team don't care about him, Barry, and the others, encourage him to leave, and he basically benches Wally when Nazis invade. The narrative still acts as if they're as close as brothers, despite them never really hanging out or doing anything together, or how much their working relationship was Out of Focus.

All these are comic book adaptations so it might be somewhat down to adapting bonds from the source and failing to include the details that made said bond (Roy and Wally's shaky relationships with their mentors in the shows is definitely this), but in some of these cases this 'bond' was invented by the adaptation, but was still never shown or established.

jcsalomon Since: Mar, 2012
Mar 17th 2016 at 5:46:22 AM •••

Are there enough examples of “misinformed attributes”—informed attributed actively belied by the characters’ behaviors—to warrant mention here?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 17th 2016 at 2:19:23 PM •••

Nah, they are put under the regular "informed" tropes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeaRover Since: Mar, 2012
Apr 25th 2015 at 3:03:32 AM •••

Something I couldn't find the subtrope for would be Miyuki's bust size in Lucky Star. Konata (and certain manga profile pages) says that her breasts are huge, but their actual drawn size is average. Where might that fit?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 25th 2015 at 5:06:28 AM •••

Seems like a plain mistake to me.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Korbl Korbl Since: Jan, 2001
Korbl
Dec 21st 2014 at 5:22:10 PM •••

I almost want to suggest a new "Informed" trope- Informed Genre, inspired by the not-at-all-horrific-just-violent-and-titillating American Horror Story, and movies that carry the Horror label but are similarly just violent and titillating.

Or am I alone in not finding mortality scary?

Lenoxus Since: Mar, 2010
Jul 12th 2013 at 3:19:38 PM •••

I have an example that doesn't quite go into any of the subtropes. In F Scott Fitzgerald's short story "Bernice Bobs Her Hair", he refers to "novels in which the female was beloved because of certain mysterious womanly qualities. always mentioned but never displayed."

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