I would put it on Humans Are Warriors if anywhere.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Suggestion for Tabletop: Warhammer 40,000. That attitude informs a large portion of the Imperial Guard and Space Marine perspectives both in and out of the actual setting.
"In distress", my ass.
I removed the Babylon 5 entry not because of "opinion", but the fact that they don't qualify.
All the "Humans are X" tropes are comparing humans to non-humans, and in the B5 universe humans aren't any more warrior/soldier-like than most of the other races of the setting.
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Hm. Not so sure on that. We do have that quote from the Minbari warrior-caste on how remarkable humans were in their resistance. At the very least, the quote sums up an attitude reflecting this trope, even if the humans aren't really warriors so much as Determinators. I'd say restore the quote and adjust the trope entry to reflect that it is a character's opinion thereof.
I don't think Battle Tech should be a "soldiers" example since the Clans are also human. And there aren't any non-human sapients in the verse so I doubt it should be on the page at all.
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Ok this example may fit better in the second section then the first. It also needs clean up. What do you all think?
- Gurps Traveller Interstellar Wars: this is more Terrans are Warriors. The "aliens" were the Vilani who were a Vestigial Empire of transplanted humans who were complacent Obstructive Bureaucrats and hadn't had a real war in ages.
- Actually this is something of an example of the Humans are Soldiers variation. Terran armies and fleets are formidable but they aren't independently strong.
- Terrans are the top predators of the Traveller universe and their skills build and destroy empires and are widely adopted until their traditions are the norm. Vilani depend to much on mass, Zhodani depend to much on psionics, Aslan are warriors and Vargr are Space Pirates. But none can really compare with humans from Earth as soldiers.
- The "Solomani/Terran Way of War" in Traveller is (probably unintentionally, but recognizably) simply what the entertaining though jingoistic columnist Victor Davis Hanson called the "Western Way of War" after it has been Recycled In Space.
- Though Solomani are the most skilled and are generally copied, most human ethnic groups seem to be at least reasonably competent at warfare and several are Proud Warrior Race s. Notable are the Azhanti who have a religion that says God commands them to "seek challenges". War is naturally a convenient way of doing so.
- Terrans are the top predators of the Traveller universe and their skills build and destroy empires and are widely adopted until their traditions are the norm. Vilani depend to much on mass, Zhodani depend to much on psionics, Aslan are warriors and Vargr are Space Pirates. But none can really compare with humans from Earth as soldiers.
- Actually this is something of an example of the Humans are Soldiers variation. Terran armies and fleets are formidable but they aren't independently strong.
- The Course of Empire by Eric Flint and K.D. Wentworth explores this concept
- ‘’ Out Of The Dark’’ by Dave Weber: Humans aren't the only fighters known, we're just the most brutal and dangerous. It also helps that we have vampires.
These entries need some useful detail. How is the trope used in these works?
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- The Dresden Files: This is one of the reasons that the major supernaturals keep under the radar , because they know damn well how quickly the torches start burning when the Weirdness Censor fails.
How does this fit the trope?
- Humanities resourcefulness, creativity and ruthlessness are why the Summer and Winter Knight's exist as a combination of [[Ambadassador diplomat]] and black ops soldier for their respective courts.
- The White Council is also the pre-eminent power on earth with the fall of the Red Court, and they expressly try to keep up the Masquerade. This from a group whose assassin caused the Tunguska incident.
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Ok I am going to start organizing each folder section alphabetically in the Work:entry style. I already checked this with the mods. To avoid missing in any changes as others work on the page I am only going to do one segment at a time.
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Ok I am done with Anime to Literature in the first section.
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Ok folks we need to do some serious clean up on the page. Just general clean up. Not quite TRS levels of work needed but it needs that before becomes a more serious problem.
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Oh I do plan to. Many hands make light work. I have the literature section going in a clip board file. However some help with the other sections would be nice. Especially because the page has two seperate sections.
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Can we talk about how that case is very prominent in the His Dark Materials trilogy, by Philip Pullman, please?
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If think it is, add it. That's kind of the point of this site. Just make your case in the example.
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Type 3 reminded me of Napoleon's observation that one Mameluke could defeat two Frenchmen, but a hundred Frenchmen had nothing to fear from three hundred Mamelukes. Of course, the Mamelukes weren't even a race of humanity, let alone a species, and the French are not by any means the only humans; but could this be added as some sort of commentary to Type 3? The full quote is a pretty celebrated one.
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