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UnSamuraiTricolore The Italian Samurai Since: Aug, 2021
The Italian Samurai
Dec 12th 2021 at 11:41:09 AM •••

Should ICO be considered an inversion of this trope? In that the protagonist Ico does talk, and you understand his dialogue, but, at least in the first playthrough, the game doesn't let you understand what the deuteragonist Yorda is saying.

americanbadass Banned Since: Mar, 2010
Banned
Jun 2nd 2010 at 9:06:28 PM •••

Ever other web page calls it by the Silent Protagonist, and it's more easily to recognize. Heroic Mine sounds like the good version of The Joker.

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94.9.139.139 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 4th 2010 at 8:38:28 AM •••

As a side-note, I have this exact same issue with Quick Time Events vs. Press X to Not Die  *

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96.19.101.14 Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 8th 2010 at 7:42:54 PM •••

I propose to rename it to Heroic Mute.

ijffdrie Since: Jan, 2010
Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:11:59 PM •••

I think Mute Protagonist would be better. Not everyone who could fit the trope is a hero, after all.

Kelnius Since: Nov, 2012
Apr 23rd 2013 at 7:18:24 AM •••

What? It's the SILENT PROTAGONIST. Everybody knows this. If I go up to someone who doesn't read TV Tropes and I say: "What's a Silent Protagonist?" so long as they speak English well, they will understand. It's a protagonist who doesn't make a sound.

Thats why I'm fond of the term "mute protagonist". I prefer the original, but that's because (like many people) I don't like change. But I can accept the logic of Mute Protagonist.

But a Heroic Mime? Mimes communicate through motion and gestures. they do communicate. A silent protagonist does not. A heroic mime sounds like a street performer that fights crime. Who the hell changed it to "Heroic Mime"? Change it back, or change it to Mute Protagonist (since, despite my own preferences, it is more applicable to the trope).

CluLegacy Since: May, 2013
Jun 19th 2013 at 7:42:50 PM •••

I propose to rename it Mute Playable Character. Makes more sense than Heroic Mime (what does it mean? A Mr. Mime with superpowers?)

HerrBlitzDiktator Since: Jun, 2012
Sep 15th 2014 at 11:08:25 AM •••

I agree with Clu Legacy, also, Caim from Drakengard is FAR from heroic. (He's mute for storyline reasons, but still applies)

ShinMinase Since: Apr, 2020
Jul 28th 2020 at 2:44:49 PM •••

Caim from Drakengard and Amaterasu from Okami aren't technically heroic mimes because they're literally mute. Caim lost his voice as a pact, and, like the other Brush Gods in animal form, Amaterasu obviously cannot speak as a wolf. I think characters who have plot reasons to be mute shouldn't technically count.

ShinMinase Since: Apr, 2020
Jul 28th 2020 at 2:48:01 PM •••

By plot reasons I mean a physical disability, or stuff that confirms that they never said anything in-universe. Link from BOTW for example counts as this trope because he, despite having an in-universe reason not to speak, has dialogue options, which means he CAN and DOES talk. This trope applies to characters who CAN speak but aren't shown to the player/viewer when they do.

ShinMinase Since: Apr, 2020
Jul 28th 2020 at 2:48:34 PM •••

If they explicitly can't speak, they need to be "The Voiceless" or "The Speechless".

ShinMinase I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines Since: Apr, 2020
I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines
Jul 18th 2020 at 1:01:58 PM •••

The Glaive of FFXV is one. though he/she ends up being completely demoted to extra in favor of the non-silent Noctis.

ShinMinase I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines Since: Apr, 2020
I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines
Jul 15th 2020 at 3:27:15 PM •••

What about the protagonists of the Mega Ten series in the anime and manga adaptations? Are they still silent? I know Shin Kanzato from Trinity Soul, Serph in the novel, and Yu Narukami in the anime talk, but I'm referring to others like Minato Arisato from P3 Manga, Souji Seta from P4 Manga, Akira Kurusu from P5 Manga, Naoya Toudou from P1 Manga, Raidou Kuzunoha in the manga, the main characters of the Devil Survivor franchise (both in the games and the adaptations) and Akemi Nakajima. Do they talk?

ShinMinase I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines Since: Apr, 2020
I am the Dragon that kills the Sardines
Jul 9th 2020 at 11:48:39 AM •••

Is Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima this trope?

And Sorey from Tales of Zestiria?

And Rean Schwarzer from Trails of Cold Steel?

And the hero from Code Vein?

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ShinMinase Since: Apr, 2020
stickfiddler Since: Jan, 2016
Apr 14th 2017 at 9:58:34 AM •••

Question, who made the art on this page? It isn't credited to anyone, as far as I can see - perhaps that should be fixed

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olivertravel Since: Mar, 2010
Oct 25th 2015 at 6:53:45 PM •••

Was Clockwork Smurf (a mechanical golum/robot created by Handy Smurf appearing in one Smurfs episode with sporadic follow-up cameos) ever eligible for this particular non-game trope?

olivertravel Since: Mar, 2010
Oct 25th 2015 at 6:51:49 PM •••

Was GI Joe's Snake Eyes ever eligible for this particular non-game trope?

Corakus Since: Feb, 2012
Jan 26th 2013 at 5:54:32 AM •••

Should the protagonist from Kingdoms of Amalur really be an example?He/she does actually have dialogue in the context of the story, there just isn't any voice acting to accompany it.

Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent Since: Jan, 2001
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
Jun 27th 2012 at 5:54:42 AM •••

I think a bit of a culling for the examples is in order. Not because there's too many, but because there seems to be some confusion and people have started adding games where the protagonist does in fact speak, but doesn't have 'fully voiced dialogue'. And this Trope is about protagonists who do not speak, not about whether the developer opted to hire a voice-actor to read those lines out.

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Euan2000 Since: Nov, 2010
May 6th 2012 at 6:00:30 AM •••

Should we add a folder for parodies and the like? VG webcomics always poke fun at this trope after all and several games are pretty self aware too.

GCO Since: May, 2009
Jun 26th 2011 at 8:48:55 AM •••

Cracked recently had an image list of "Before they were famous" video game characters, and the one for Gordon Freeman kinda sorta hit this trope on the nose. Would this possibly be a more direct image for this article?

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