Discussion Main / Gorn

Cut a long time ago. You'd have to ask in the Trope Repair Shop to get that changed.

I suspect I know why.

An example necessarily has to be something that's gory for the express sake of the catharsis in the gore itself. From the perspective of the consumer (player, viewer, reader, and so on), that's problematically ambiguous (though not outright subjective); worse, the distinction is very probably lost on a majority of tropers and you wind up with a lot of "examples" that are merely very gory, without any respect or concern for the intent of the scene or work.

We'd basically need Word of God on every single example and that's asking entirely too much.

More to the point, why'd it get deleted?

Likewise. I don't even remember a discussion anywhere about removing Gorn examples.

You might want to direct that question to Fast Eddie, since he was the one responsible for the Example Sectionectomy.

P Med him; no response.

^He has a habit of not responding to PMs; you can try on the forums (Content Violations to be specific) if you want to.

Because having any examples at all was "creepy" or something.

God forbid a creepy trope have creepy examples.

Can we revisit this? I'm bothered by the implications of permanently removing this examples section. It's fine if gore isn't your thing but looks to me like we're now into the territory of passing judgement on anyone who would want to know the examples. As if there are no such things as fans who consume violent horror flicks as thrillers, or revel in over-the-top-silly splatter, or have group movie nights where it's a matter of shared pride to be able to withstand the most intense images and stories available. How about practical FX enthusiasts or aspirants who are seeking examples to benefit their understanding? There's an implied accusation here that anyone who would want examples in the Gorn section is just looking to satisfy some twisted sexualized fetish because they can't Rosie Palms to the foot-sawing scene in Audition anymore. That's not only ignorant to the point of silliness, it's an actual obstacle to creativity that I feel is counter to the values and best purposes of this community. Plus there's an element of "Complaining About X You Don't Y" to it.

Bring it up in the Wiki Talk forum.

The reason given is "Disproportionately targeted at male characters."

Anyone want me to put it back in there? I can do that!

Because we don't like horribly bloody pictures and have already used the kitty-instead-of-violence joke somewhere else