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Should this be part of Sugar Wiki?

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Can there be a whole page for Japan for this trope, just like there’s a page for 9/11 examples on Distanced from Current Events? There are thousands of examples of things being famous in Japan, to the point I think they should be put in a whole article. Same applies for a few other countries.

Out of interest how does the site decide which countries are particular to a certain piece of media?

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I think that there should be one for Japan and Snow White, since she seems to be the most commonly mentioned princess even outside stories that revolve around princesses and fairy tales. Western media tends to include her if it's like a story ensemble of fairy tales or princesses, or a pastiche on Disney, but even then Cinderella is more likely to be brought up if talking about the classic Disney princesses, with newer Disney princesses being more likely to be mentioned. From being the play that is discussed in Sailor Moon that the girls want to play the role for, to there just being a lot of motifs on her, from Snow White and the Seven Prisoners which takes place in modern post-apocalyptic Toyko to Snow White With the Red Hair. If a female character is compared to a princess, it'll likely be Snow White. It may have to do in part with how Snow White does have the dark hair and light skin beauty standard which fits well with Japan, as well as being a sweet girl. Still, where would I even put that?

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Possible Trope Decay?, started by Lionheart0 on Feb 15th 2011 at 8:17:35 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Any connection between this and, say, French Love Jerry Lewis?

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Removed the following from the Holidays subpage:

No external origin listed:

• Everyone who was raised in San Antonio, Texas, will have had the experience of having one spring Friday, usually in April, off from school. It's called "Battle of Flowers Day" and is used to celebrate the crux of the big, city-wide ten-day festival known as "Fiesta". This daytime parade, the Battle of Flowers Parade, has been a part of San Antonio's landscape for over 100 years and is traditionally used as a celebration of springtime.

We had costs invested in that war too:

• Rhode Island still celebrates the end of World War II long after every country involved had stopped.

Belongs on the Inverse, if even that...

• Even the Fourth of July is not immune to this trope. After the American Civil War, the people of Vicksburg, Mississippi did not celebrate the holiday until it was made a federal holiday in 1931, as that day marked the surrender of the town to Union forces.

Ketchum's corollary to Clarke's Third Law: Any sufficiently advanced tactic is indistinguishable from blind luck.

The myth, David Hasselhoff is famous in Germany, is still alive, but it is also still a myth. As a German I can say it's definitely not true. Of course, he has had a little fame during his time with Knight Rider and Baywatch and in the time the Berlin Wall was deconstructed (1989/1990) among the non english speaking East German citizens, but - neither he is nor was a big thing in Germany or had a huge success. Funny, but it's a joke.

We have a special word about people like him: "(sich) fremdschämen" (http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/__pr/GIC/TWIG__WoW/2013/41-fremdsch_C3_A4men.html and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fremdsch%C3%A4men ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_Hasselhoff/Archive_1#Hasselhoff_in_Germany

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-man-the-myth-the-hoff-confessions-of-a-german-david-hasselhoff-fan-a-746407.html

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My impression was the subject of the trope needed to be not-popular in it's country of origin; not just more-popular someplace else. Hasselhoff not known for his singing career in the US, or I should say not many people listen to him. Obscure is a good word. His Albums and singles only make the charts in other countries.

Any example that says something like "while its popular here, its more popular there" is missing the point. Popular is not Obscure.

Someone removed my post on Final Fantasy saying that it's still popular in Japan, but less popular than in the US, saying it's demonstrably false. I'm... not sure how this is actually true. Yes, Final Fantasy sells better in Japan than the US, but it sells much worse compared to other RPG series in Japan. As an example... When you compare sales numbers on Final Fantasy XII, you get 2.4 Million in Japan versus 1.7 Million in the US — taken on its own, that sounds like Final Fantasy is more popular in Japan. Now, let's try putting that in context. Dragon Quest VIII sold 3.6 million in Japan, but only 430,000 in the US — not looking quite so big in Japan now, is it?

Not to mention the cultural significance differs greatly — in Japan, it's just another popular RPG series, and not even the most popular. In The US, it is seen as the definitive JRPG series, and is what anyone will immediately think of when you say it. In Japan, this role of cultural significance is taken by Dragon Quest, and Turned Up To Eleven — there's literally a Japanese law stating that the games can only be released on weekends and holidays after the release of Dragon Quest III caused a school-skipping epidemic.

So... where does this start being demonstrably false, again?

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This page is being split due to length. It has reached a size where it is in danger of causing server performance issues. See this thread for details.

To alleviate this, I split off the current content along the lines of the current folder structure. New examples should be placed in the appropriate media sub-pages.

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Umm, little question. I think the Pokémon anime would be considered equally popular outside of Japan, not "more".

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Where in the world outside of the U.S. loved Little Shop of Horrors (the musical version)? I think it might be very popular in Japan.

"As if this wasn't odd enough, there is a professional Dutch DJ who has used Cheetahmen to loving crowds. It's mind-boggling."

No clue who in the world posted this up. The video linked is a fake, the clapping doesn't match the audio patterns whatsoever, as well as several other pieces of evidence.

There are a couple of comments on the video stating "Yeah, I had a great time there!", but they're fake. I should know, I put up one of them, out of the two on that video.

tl;dr you got fooled hard, man.

Will Somebody put Nintendo`s Super Smash Bros. Series sells more copies in the United States than Japan?

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This article needs major clean up. Many examples, are as stupid as the Simpsons. The Spanish translation in Latin America was AS POPULAR as the original in USA. Which is not the case of this trope. Hasselhoff was virtually unknown as a singer in USA and crazy huge in Germany. That's the trope, unknown in it's original country, crazy huge elsewhere. Not "equally popular", or "it's action figure sold better in Italy". Transformers might be a good example, since USA produced an entire animated series our of a Japanese product. The franchise as animation was to Japan what Hasselhoff singing to Americans. The trope should be more like the typically loser rock band saying "we're big in Europe".

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I merged "Real Life" into the "Other" folder. This whole trope is about Real Life perceptions.