Nope. We have already decided against that.
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You know what? This trope should be renamed "Soured Sweet Girl". That'll be a better name for it.
"Soured Sweet Girl"? How does that imply a personality of boundless energy, cutsey-ness, and optimism? The 'soured' part especially sounds more like a Broken Bird than this trope.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Japanese in trope titles.
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In Love with Homura and Love itself.
is it just me or are the title, description and examples only vaguely related to each other: just looking at the title; it uses a Japanese word for no apparent reason and as far as i can tell the actual meaning of the word genki seems to be something more along the lines of currently in a good mood not insanely energetic (my only source for this is hearing the word used in subbed anime but i think i probably have the general idea) and the name is gender specific but the trope isn't.
comparing the description and the actual examples; the description says things like "acts like she's been mainlining Red Bull and crystal meth" and "her family and peers are exhausted, astonished or even creeped out by her chronic outbursts of vitality" but the examples seem to include any character who is even a little more energetic than most of the cast even if they aren't really hyperactive most of the time.
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I don't have time to do extensive investigation, but Trope Repair may explain some things you've brought up.
the TRS thread explained a few things related to the name but nothing about the exaggerated description.
I've also noticed that there are a lot of Zero Context Examples.
i looked for the actual definition of genki and it was about what i thought it was wiktionary gives the definition as: healthy, in good spirits, fine [1].
Japanese is way too complex to nitpick like that. I've seen genki used to mean "okay"/"alright" as in "are you okay?" I think it's more complex than just high-energy, but I'm guessing the definition relies on the context. Either way, it's already firmly established as a trope name, so I see no reason to change it.
Mifune, Ryuuko from Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko counts right? She should probably get added, but I dont wanna go adding things all willy nilly. She really makes a point to "be genki all the time" judging from the anime. No idea if they delve into her character in the Light Novel, but I'm 90% sure that she's 100% authentic; a pure genki girl
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Removed this example because there's no context and the link is dead. If anyone knows what it's referring to, please restore:
- Tania Gunadi as this 2nd-grade teacher. "SO MUCH GLITTER!"
- It's worth noting that Tania herself is a Genki Girl in real life, as well.
Dumb question: Is there a male equivalent of this trope?
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Keet, I think, but that's being folded into here as a subtrope. Gender doesn't matter; Genki Guy is a redirect to Genki Girl. See the TRS discussion — linked at the top of this page — for more info.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
If this and Keet are the same trope, that explains the male examples, but why is this in the Always Female index?
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The repair shop is closed for now, but this trope really needs its name changed to 'Eccentric Gal' or something, the Japanese in this site is annoying.
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I like the Japanese...especially since we still have dedicated anime/manga sections...
That's exactly what I am talking about, this site is TOO obsessed with anime, evidenced by most of the trope images being anime/manga, its just irritating.
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Why is that irritating? I myself don't watch or read much manga or anime, but I don't mind it. And you can always try to promote images you think are better. Just bashing an interest in Japanese culture seems a bit harsh.
I can deal with the images really, its just the Japanese in trope titles is where it goes too far. And I wouldn't exactly call that Japanese culture by doing that, just pretty weeaboo-like.
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Hmmm. Well, I think "genki" seems to refer to something a bit more codified than "energetic" - something similar to the idea of "manic pixie dream girl" (not that they're the same, but that "genki" is more specific than "energetic." I saw something similar happen to Yamato Nadeshiko - where they started up sub-tropes for nationality (like Proper Lady, etc). I think if you'd like, you could see about starting up similar pages for this one.
I, however, really like the name Genki Girl.
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Uh...I can't seem to find any such Image Pickin' discussion, not even the old one. So why was the image changed?
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Me neither.
I never thought this one was that great an example, so I don't see why it was brought back.
I'm pretty sure the tie-drag one was chosen on Image Picking actually.
Someone changed the image again, but...to be perfectly honest, I really think this one is a better image for the trope, so I'm content to let it be. :)
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If Genki Guy redirects here but Genki Boy redirects to Keet, then what's the difference between this and Keet? Is there any difference other than gender?
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Here's my guess- Genki Girl is broadly proactive. She'll jump into any project headfirst, though she may quickly get bored with it. Her high energy is functional and serves the purpose of getting things done. The Keet by contrast, is a passive character type who usually dedicates his energy to trying to get attention. Workable distinction?
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About superlatives: It doesn't help to start an arms race of how your favorite show was the awesomest awesomesauce ever to be awesome and did I mention it's awesome on crack. Everyone will follow your lead, and it starts to look ridiculous really fast.
Give an EXAMPLE of the behavior. Tell us that your Genki Girl engages in three conversations at the same time without missing a beat. Tell us that she can turn even the Deadpan Snarker of the show optimistic and enthusiastic. Tell us that she's so energetic that she accidentally set a new speed record in PE. Don't tell us that your Genki Girl is a speed freak who ate a bushel of cocaine while she's jammed in a VCR stuck on fast-forward and hooked up to 500 volts of electricity, unless she literally did all of those things. (Which would probably be the end of the series.)
Since not all of us are Anime fans, is there chance we can rename these kinds of Tropes?
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