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What does anyone here think we should do about Bible Buffet and Ehrgeiz?
Even though Ehrgeiz is primarily a fighting game, the quest mode is a completely different genre and essentially its own game on the same disk. I moved it to Action RPGs so that anyone interested would not miss out.
Bible Buffet, on the other hand, is more of a mixed case. It is one of currently only two games listed under Board Games, but while Kiratto Kaiketsu: 64 Tanteidan is just about entirely that, this game's application of food takes place in action-oriented stages. Thing is, "Action" did not exist when I added it, and most of that folder's current examples were listed under "Platformer", with top-down games having their own folder at the time.
Even though Bible Buffet is primarily a board game, does anyone here think it should be moved under Action instead?
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The description needs to be tightened up and, well, made to actually define the trope. I had to read the YKTTW to get an idea of what the trope actually means (games containing lots of different foods for flavor). The current description doesn't make that clear.
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The laconic already reads "Choice of food in video games," and I already laid down some ground rules. How would you suggest I tighten it up further?
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To the person who moved The Elder Scrolls to "Standard RPG", I get your point about wiki consistency. That is where I put it originally, but then some genre confusion set in while I was rearranging stuff, and I saw that series listed in the wiki's genre page for Wide-Open Sandbox.
In any case, Wikipedia lists it as an Action RPG, something I (technically) didn't originally have a folder for. I had a folder for Adventure RPG, but then we got The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and I took some time to figure out how to sort that game, seeing how Zelda games are not RPGs (it even says in Gannon-Banned (no pun intended) not to call them such, and the difference between adventure games and RPGs was also described at one point in Nintendo Power's Epic Center back in 1995).
As I write this, though, The Elder Scrolls is in fact a wide-open sandbox game. It even says on the page for Action RPG:
By the strictest definition, an ARPG is an RPG where combat success depends equally on player skill and Player Character skill. But the loose and more commonly accepted definition of ARPG (at least, of the contemporary ones) basically boils down to "the fights in this RPG occur in real time and you can play it with a controller". It's no surprise, then, that games as different as The Witcher 2 (a choice-driven narrative game), The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (a Wide-Open Sandbox), Diablo III, Dark Souls, and Final Fantasy XV all get labeled "action RPG", despite being barely comparable in terms of gameplay. This is, perhaps, indicative of how meaningless the label is, where it's becoming more and more synonymous with simply "RPG".
In other words, this is a common misconception to begin with that winds that series together with ARPGs proper, and also, it explicitly is a WOS.
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If you wish to move it to Action RPG, I'll accept that. It's without question a RPG series, with an open-world style of gameplay. Even on Wikipedia, it lists "action role-playing" ahead of "open world". The openness of the world is a draw of the series, but it is an RPG first and foremost.
I suppose I will, then.
In general, organizing can be a bitch. I was actually just about to remove the Action RPG folder altogether, since that mainly refers to a specific game mechanic (the experience/level system) without which most games under it would fall under some other genre. I mean, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is an open-world sidescrolling platformer and one of the trope namers of Metroidvania, while River City Ransom is a Beat 'em Up and not even a fixed one like Final Fight. Meanwhile, there exist other games outside this trope such as Panzer Dragoon and Mega Man Zero, which are respectively a shoot-em-up and a regular platformer in terms of actual action.
I do understand, though, that while the purpose of genres is to classify works by different types under their medium, how they still tend to combine is still only inevitable.
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