Discussion Main / FreakinessShame

I don't see what was wrong with it, either. The new title is technically broader in scope, but the original was perfectly self-explanatory as it stood, and far more poetic. For that matter, "Freakiness Shame" is kind of a confusing description for the trope. There are a lot of ways those words could be interpreted...

I know we're trying to move from confusing, anecdotal titles to more functional ones, but in this case I don't think anything was broken enough to need fixing...and the fix isn't very appealing. Hmm.

Thirded.

Fourthed. Freakiness Shame is broader, but it only implies shame of freakiness, and not that there's someone who finds that freakiness attractive.

I agree. Not only is the new title rather ambiguous compared to the original, but it's also pretty boring.

Yeah, the new title doesn't make sense to me. I'd like it changed back.

Not going to happen, folks. Lines of dialogue are no longer accepted as trope titles.

Also, I do not agree with But Your Wings Are Beautiful being a better title. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Even if you assume that lines of dialogue as trope titles are necessarily bad—which I don't—I still think we can do much better than the current title.

They are against policy, though - see No New Stock Phrases which also explains succinctly why we don't like them.

You don't seriously expect me to believe that No New Stock Phrases means that every trope named from a stock phrase has to be renamed, do you? Besides, I didn't see this trope falling victim to any of the problems that were used to justify the policy.

Now, while I don't like Freakiness Shame, But Your Wings Are Beautiful is worse. that's just... completely esoteric. I'd have absolutely no idea as to what that's about from the title.

I personally find nothing ambiguous about the old title, but seeing as some people disliked it, I may have to reconsider. However, from this discussion, I also get the impression that a lot of people don't like the new title, and I think we may want to start a thread for choosing a better one.

Throwing my hat in that But Your Wings Are Beautiful is a FAR superior title. Freakiness Shame implies only the fear of being a freak without any other connotations.

Years after the name change, the TV Tropes community no longer understands what this trope even is.

The laconic page describes Freakiness Shame/But Your Wings Are Beautiful as "Your monster parts are cute!" A little less laconically, Character A is insecure about their monstrous appearance, an appearance which Character B is attracted to, either genuinely or as an extension of their pre-existing attraction.

Now, see the character sheet for A Silent Voice: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/ASilentVoice. Under Shoko's sheet, an editor listed Freakiness Shame, referring to Shoko's deafness and her shame in regards to it. This is not an example of the trope. Shoko has no monster parts, nor is Shoko's love interest, Shoya, attracted to her because she has monster parts, or because she is deaf.

Now, you could chalk this up to the editor's mistake, except that their entry DOES describe "Freakiness Shame" if divorced of its tropic context. Shoko feels like a freak, and she feels shame. 'Freakiness' by itself, has no monstrous or supernatural connotation.

I'd argue that the new title 'Freakiness Shame' is creating a situation ripe for misunderstandings, like the one above. A proper solution would be to change the name back to "But Your Wings Are Beautiful" or to a new term that accurately describes this trope.

Sure looks that way, but since it appears to have been a unilateral move by Fast Eddie, the guy who runs the joint, I doubt it's going to change back. I would be interested in hearing a reason, though.