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I understand why we shouldn't add a real life folder as it does two things; breeds max-sec criminals and thrill-seekers who bs themselves on their own pain tolerance. But if buy some magical miracle it did exist, I would add mass sleep depravation from overwork hours as a fate worse than death!

I don't like Uwe Boll or Seltzer and Friedberg's work (I haven't SEEN it), but someone takes bad movies way to seriously to call any director's work a Fate Worse Than Death. Why don't you add George Lucas' name to it too?

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Split some of the examples., started by dRoy on May 27th 2011 at 3:52:48 PM

A good portion of these examples would fall under cruel and unusual death rather than fate worse than death given that they are simply rather nasty ways to go.

Also, in order for a fate to be worse than death (with few exceptions), there has to be something eternal, infinite, or otherwise unavoidable. I think that should be mentioned in this trope.

Seems like a prime example for YMMV. Most people are bound to say: yeah, that's pretty bad, but breaking your hip is worse, not to mention dying.

Couple additions for me to film: The Thing and Leviathan fit into what I'd estimate as a fate worse than death. Being fused to other organic material acting as a killing machine and (at least in Leviathan, when the one guy's face seems to be asking for death) still aware of what's going on.

Also, in Angel when Fred has her soul destroyed accidentally is pretty horrifying...even though they eventually make friends with the demon now inhabits her body.

I pulled this from the Dungeons And Dragons section:

• The "Imprisonment" spell traps its victim in a small magical sphere deep beneath the planet's crust. It also keeps it alive and conscious, forever.

Imprisonment keeps the target "in a state of suspended animation (see the temporal stasis spell)", and Temporal Stasis clarifies, "For the creature, time ceases to flow and its condition becomes fixed. The creature does not grow older. Its body functions virtually cease, and no force or effect can harm it." That doesn't sound like "alive and conscious", so it's probably about on par with death (or nicer, depending on whatever afterlife the target is headed into).

As per the edit text request, I'm stopping here before deleting one of the quotes. The Clue quote doesn't really describe Fate Worse than Death. It sort of mocks the idea, but that's really about it. The House quote does a better job of conveying the same idea without minimizing it, and we're supposed to be aiming for one quote per page anyway. Requesting a n explanation for why the Clue quote should stay.

In D&D 3.5, the Positive Energy Plane isn't "good aligned"; it isn't aligned at all actually. Positive energy is neither good nor evil, it just "is". You are thinking of 1st edition, where positive energy was good and negative energy was evil. It was not the case in third edition.