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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:34:48 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Rename, started by nrjxll on Jun 12th 2011 at 9:28:51 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013
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Nov 2nd 2014 at 7:08:12 AM •••

When I edited the entry for Liza Warner from the Lady Cop comic, I deliberately put in a namespaced redlink Lady Cop. Now I see that margdean56 has reverted that to no link at all, without leaving an edit reason. I don't want to start an edit war, so I'm just asking: is there any valid reason for that reversion?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 2nd 2014 at 9:05:36 AM •••

Plenty of people think that redlinks are undesirable. They aren't. So revert away, citing the discussion page. You might want to message margdean as well - click on their name on the edit history.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
Nov 2nd 2014 at 9:19:44 AM •••

OK, I'll change it back. And I've already messaged margdean, pointing them at this discussion, since they might have had a valid reason for the revert that I don't know about.

margdean56 Since: Sep, 2013
Nov 3rd 2014 at 2:24:40 PM •••

Okay, I just thought it was a mistake (i.e., thinking a page existed when it didn't). If it's your intention to eventually make a page there, go for it!

GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
Nov 4th 2014 at 3:36:53 AM •••

Yes, the intention was that either I or someone else should create the page. Intentionally creating red links can be a way of saying "There is no page now, but there really should be". Of course, red links can also be mistakes (spelling errors or the wrong name space).

GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013
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Oct 18th 2014 at 2:41:17 AM •••

I'm seeing a bit of a problem with this trope, and that is that as it's being applied to female cops, it's too common. I'm not saying that it's being misused, but perhaps overused.

Hollywood being what it is, almost all female cops younger than 50 are going to be played by good-looking actresses. All such characters tend to get Fair Cop as an example, and/or get listed here. For male characters it's less of a problem, again because Hollywood is what it is. For example, see the entry for NYPD Blue on this page.

So maybe the trope definition should be narrowed down a little, to make it clear that it's not just about cops the audience finds attractive (which would mean nearly all female cops on TV and film), but cops who are attractiveness is used as a trope in-universe.

A good female example would be Pepper Anderson on Police Woman whose good looks are commented on by other characters and who uses them to her advantage on undercover missions.

A good male example would be Baldwin Jones on NYPD Blue who is so good-looking that female witnesses get Distracted by the Sexy.

And maybe also the wicks should be cleaned up, if nothing else to eliminate all the ZCEs that were added just because somebody find an actor or actress playing a cop to be good-looking.

Any thoughts? Should it be taken to the TRS? Or is it not a problem?

GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013
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Oct 16th 2014 at 1:11:59 AM •••

Should this page really have a Real Life section? I thought gushing over real persons' looks was frowned upon...

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 16th 2014 at 2:07:11 AM •••

Dunno about it, seeing as most examples are ZCE.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
Oct 16th 2014 at 3:58:15 AM •••

Well, four of them suffer from Web Links Are Not Examples, the last one being just a link to an external photo. The others seem more like trivia.

So there's not much gushing today - it's rather that I'm concerned it may deteriorate into that. Not that there's a huge influx of posters, anyway.

GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
Oct 16th 2014 at 11:56:59 AM •••

OK, since the policy seems to be "If it doesn't cause problems, keep it" I attempted to fix some of the problems with the Real Life section. One of the links was dead and since no other information was provided I commented it out. I also commented out the ZCE (just a link to a photo of a good-looking police officer).

ThinksTooMuch Since: Dec, 2009
Sep 4th 2010 at 9:29:47 AM •••

Article: "You are not particularly likely to see a Fair Cop in a stripper's police outfit."

Picture: Cop in a stripper's police outfit.

Something is wrong here.

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azraelfinalstar Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 13th 2011 at 8:19:07 PM •••

And am i the only one who finds her to look rather unattractive at that?

DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
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Sep 25th 2010 at 6:46:17 AM •••

Reg Shoe? this Reg Shoe?? I suppose he does look quite young, but surely that's mitigated by looking, well, dead?

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