Link to those discussions? We could help if we know what discussed is or isn’t misuse.
Please put the link in [==] as links don’t work in discussion pages.
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Starting here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=84911&type=att
And continuing here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Series.Batwoman2019#comment-120541-126801
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Sorcerer in training
"Charlie Brown is the world champion of this trope, forever destined to demolish all challengers to the throne in his hilariously cruel world, managing to find new and creative ways to make him fail at life."
I think I felt sorriest for Charlie Brown when he got an excellent score at bowling -and they spelled his name Braun on the trophy. :( Poor guy.
(Yes, Dad could take Charlie Brown to the bowling alley and get it fixed, but that's potential; to a kid, especially one with Charlie's luck, this would be devastating.)
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Removed:
- Played for laughs in Big Trouble in Little China. Kurt Russell's character Jack Burton is "a guy who thinks he's the Action Hero when he's really the comic sidekick." The only heroic thing he really succeeds in doing is taking down Lo Pan via Catch and Return of his signature boot knife.
Jack Burton actually succeeds at just about everything he sets out to do. His only failures are missing out on two fight scenes, but otherwise he's in the thick of it, rescuing the damsels and defeating the bad guys. He has an inflated sense of importance, but he's not constantly failing.
MagBas
- Ash Ketchum, he's hardly won a battle since he lost that six-on-six battle to Paul.
- Pretty much anyone on this show; they all eventually lose to rivals.
Pretty much the only achievement that is denied to them is win a "main" tournament.
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"Please note that being saddled with the pesky Status Quo Is God or Failure Is the Only Option tropes isn't enough to qualify someone as a Failure Hero; they must fail at not only the thing the shows says they can't succeed at but at nearly everything else due to continual plot contrivances." This is in the text of the trope.
So it emerged in other discussions that there are many, many shoehorned and misused "examples" for Failure Hero— maybe even the majority of what's listed. Major cleanup is needed. I'm personally only comfortable addressing characters I'm actually familiar with since I can't be sure if others are wrong or just badly explained.
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