Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help
, started by 4tell0life4 on Dec 14th 2018 at 3:23:26 AM
I don't think that the picture of an evil Kermit the frog is fitting. There never WAS an evil Kermit in any of the Muppet shows, so therefore the picture is not an example. We should put up a more fitting picture, that is an actual example.
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It's an example all by itself. Doesn't matter if never appeared in the show. Illustrates the trope perfectly.
Edited by FastEddie Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Yes, it illustrates the trope, but if someone didn't know about the Muppets, they wouldn't be able to understand the picture. Maybe we need a caption explaining it, like "Kermit the frog's Evil Twin".
It's funny, nobody who owns a tv will have any trouble getting it, it shows the concept immediately. No reason to change.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
I, for one, never understood what made the picture a picture of an Evil Twin. I mean, just because you have claws and teeth doesn't mean you're evil. I think we need a picture of an actual villainous twin character, not a photo shopped good character with teeth and claws.
- As a reply to Some Guy, that idea would be good, we just need to make sure that it is an actual good and evil twin. It would be clearer than the current picture, and would illustrate the difference between the good and evil twins.
Fast Eddie supports this picture, so you'll have little luck changing it. But since Judas happens to be my favorite apostle, I'll throw you a bone.
This
◊ is the original image that the shop is based off of. If you make a shop that includes both images, then we'll have the good twin evil twin contrast you're looking for, and we can throw a caption onto it for good measure. By my count, this is probably the only option as far as changing the picture goes.
Thanks for the picture, which saved me several hours of image searching, Some Guy. However, I can't photoshop. Does anyone know what happened to the Evil Spock picture, or why it was deleted? I think some knowledge of what gets deleted and on what grounds would be useful.
I think that the "Evil Spock" picture was deleted for not being an example. Oh, Irony!
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.
Especially considering that it shows up on Beard of Evil. Yeah, that should qualify it above the current picture.
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.
I think the picture works. As for whoever it was that said "just because you have claws and teeth doesn't mean you're evil," I agree, but those things certainly help convey that effect visually. After all, Fangs Are Evil, claws are typically evil, and this Kermit looks like he wants to disembowel me.
That image is just disturbing.
It illustrates, but is it is ugly and unpleasant to look at. Call me squeamish if you like, but... ugh.
Pass the Brain Bleach.
Edited by TropeEater Evil is my favorite color.
I favor changing it, but that may just be because that picture gave me a freakin' heart attack the first time I came to this page.
I've been here too long. Regretting choosing this screenname ten years ago.
I agree. The picture is too scary. It can also show up in the "you might like" feed at the bottom of the page, subjecting unwary patrons to a horrifying image, without giving them a chance to avoid it.
This is in contrast to T Vtropes' usual policy regarding horror, which is to relegate it to its own page, or to block it with the spoiler tag (as seen in the Human Centipede page).
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I absolutely do not see why this image is "too scary", and it's a very weak argument for removal. Never mind that "which is to relegate it to its own page, or to block it with the spoiler tag (as seen in the Human Centipede page). " while being true is not a policy about horror.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
No offense but... really? That's too scary? C'mon people, you have to be a bit tougher than that. I feel like the TV Tropes community as a whole deserves more credit than that.
The only arguments I can think against it are the fact that it relies on Fan Myopia to know Kermit exists and is good (but he's apparently iconic enough to count, per word of Eddie) and the fact that in the new movie, Kermit does have an Evil Twin, and that might lead to confusion.
"Too scary" is borderline insulting to the website as a whole.
Not a cheapskate!
Evil Kermit with a different angle to the pupils and pointy teeth. Whoever created that image is a wizard.
Baldur's Gate: Throne of Bhaal expansion had this and/or the inversion to this.
In one of the planar stronghold battles the player character would have to face an "opposite" of themselves. This could be a good player facing their evil twin, or an evil player fighting their good twin. Not sure if this belongs here or in Evil Counterpart though (with the inverted good counterpart).
Hayleychaotix
Does the Wizards of Waverly Place example really count?
In a Wizards of Waverly Place episode, Alex gets her replica out of a picture, using a special machine. Their lines suggests the fact Alex is actually the bad one of the two: Alex: Goodness. I do look good in that dress. (she turns around) Baby Rockford, put that dress on, we got a fashion show to save. Alex's replica: No! I like this dress... Alex(turns to her replica): Alex, can I talk to you over there for a second? Alex's replica: Sure! (she walks away) Alex grabs a heavy object from a shelf, then follows her,with a dark scowl on her face.
It wasn't technically a twin, and it had two lines, none of which would suggest she wasn't particularly evil.
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Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused
, started by WhirlRX on Jan 2nd 2017 at 3:34:32 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman