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DeadlyEspresso totally human Since: Apr, 2023
totally human
Nov 5th 2023 at 9:00:27 AM •••

Should the YMMV version of Evil Is Sexy be reassigned to a different YMMV trope? While villains being sexy can be invoked by the creators as an Intended Audience Reaction, sometimes evil characters are still found to be hot even when that wasn't the intention of the author. If it's not the author's intention, it is an audience reaction, therefore villains being seen as hot when it's not authorial intent can be seen as a YMMV trope.

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GrumpyOldYouth Since: Dec, 2019
Dec 26th 2023 at 8:53:20 PM •••

I agree, most of the entries I've seen for it were always on YMMV pages, and while some of them CAN be chalked up to Draco in Leather Pants, there are plenty of villains, like Frollo, Gaston, Android 17, Zarbon, Vegeta at first, and even--to show this as a YMMV and not necessarily an intended reaction--Perfect Cell and Broly. Personally, I also think Jenner and Cat R. Waul could be considered this among Furries, and I don't think they (always) get the Draco in Leather Pants treatment (not to mention, that trope isn't even about attractive villains so much as the audience treating villains as sympathetic or likeable when they not only were meant to be evil, but clearly demonstrated to BE villainous). Back when it WAS a trope, I had actually considered adding I.M. Meen as an example—even if he's SUPPOSED to be a Gonk, I've heard some people find him sorta-attractive for his over-the-top personality.

I suppose a good name for the YMMV-based Evil Is Sexy trope could be "Audience-Lust Inspiring Villain" or "Lust to Hate" (a pun on Love to Hate) or "Unintentionally Sexy" (the latter could also be a Fanservice-based counterpart to Ugly Cute or a YMMV variant of Kavorka Man for characters who are SUPPOSED to be unattractive, but the audience ends up finding them attractive anyways).

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
Dec 28th 2023 at 11:54:32 AM •••

The TRS decided that "fans find the villain hot" isn't notable since in many works all the characters are meant to be at least somewhat attractive. Anyway, this isn't where such things are to be discussed; you could ask for more specifics at TRS or attempt a rebrand in TLP, but the decision for this page has already been made.

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NOYB She/Her Since: Sep, 2009
She/Her
Mar 22nd 2022 at 9:59:38 PM •••

This isn't a YMMV trope. Portraying evil things and people as more sexed up is something that's done deliberately and consistently in works. YMMV would be if this trope were about people personally finding evil characters hot, which it isn't.

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NOYB She/Her Since: Sep, 2009
She/Her
Mar 22nd 2022 at 9:59:11 PM •••

Why'd it go to the top and not the bottom? Wish I could delete double post.

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efmocat Since: Aug, 2011
Feb 24th 2012 at 1:19:09 AM •••

Lust indeed???? Oh! Come on. I think we can do more then a bit better then Fullmetal Alchemist’s Lust, for the page image.

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Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Apr 10th 2012 at 7:36:19 AM •••

I get the feeling that editor was resisting the urge to put the word "fap" in the caption.*

But you're right.

NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
Jan 25th 2022 at 8:14:43 AM •••

Comment was in wrong place.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:45:15 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Is there a reason this doesn't have an image links section?, started by neoYTPism on Apr 8th 2011 at 7:25:20 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 2:30:01 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Clean-up and possibly make objective, started by MangaManiac on Jun 29th 2011 at 6:20:47 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:06:04 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by captainpat on Jul 17th 2012 at 12:26:36 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AsForMyHandle No crack, Gromit! We’ve forgotten the crack! Since: Aug, 2013
No crack, Gromit! We’ve forgotten the crack!
Oct 8th 2015 at 7:02:49 AM •••

Can we cut the "Evil is Soxy" page?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 9th 2015 at 1:00:30 AM •••

Why?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 9th 2015 at 5:32:01 AM •••

Better question is "why does it exist?"

It's a redirect for a typo with a misspelling with zero wicks and zero inbounds. Throw it on the Cut List.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 10th 2015 at 2:11:28 AM •••

Oh! I did read it as sexy. That misspelling can go.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ToxicHolyGrenade Since: May, 2017
Jun 9th 2017 at 6:01:43 AM •••

I wish Good is Sexy would also be added to this site as well.

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killikim Bifauxnen Since: Oct, 2011
Bifauxnen
Dec 22nd 2013 at 5:44:13 PM •••

Maybe she can be used as a page image, while it's never directly stated if she's evil or not does she try to kidnap a boy, make the same boy fight with his first-ever best friend over who will have her while enjoing it, she dislikes it when he gets friends but that's becauce she wants to keep him to herself and she doesn't really say why and doesn't really seem to love him either. She's from Kire.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001
May 29th 2013 at 2:51:23 PM •••

Do we have to have the My Little Pony example?

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001
May 29th 2013 at 3:11:20 PM •••

At least in the comic section I mean.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
May 30th 2013 at 6:26:51 AM •••

... while I wholeheartedly want to agree with you and get rid of that... this is still YMMV and there is obviously enough of a fandom that believes it.

Sigh.

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Forecharmer Still Forecharmer Since: Dec, 2010
Still Forecharmer
Oct 12th 2012 at 7:14:05 AM •••

What about Hexxus from Ferngully? Toxic love as sung by Tim Curry is hot.

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Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Apr 20th 2012 at 9:41:48 AM •••

Is it possible to have this trope come about by accident? Like, creating a potential Draco in Leather Pants a la Do Not Do This Cool Thing?

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