Did we really need to have the N-word right there in the trope description?
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For reference, this is what Midna was talking about :
In police TV shows, cops will routinely threaten suspects with jail, where "all those big horny niggers like nothing better than a new white bitch to rape!"
Is that a quote or something? I couldn't find anything about it.
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With all of these examples, a trend emerges. Seems like there is a distinct difference between regular Double Standard: Rape, Male on Male and Karmic Rape. Shouldn't these be separated?
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding something here, but I would say not. Saying it was 'karmic' seems to imply someone deserved to be raped, which I'm not sure many people would be comfortable suggesting.
Ever hear the Date Rape song by Sublime? Basically it's about a guy who commits date rape, and has a victim press charges, the final verse is about him being raped in the prison shower. That's basically the pinnacle of "Karmic Rape."
Stephen Lynch did a live performance of his Super Hero song, with audience contributed super hero names, one of which was "Butt Sex Man," which Lynch posited fought crime through, well, anal sexual assault.
That fits here, right?
I could have sworn this used to have another name
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I'm pretty sure it used to have the name "Rape Is Okay When It Is Male On Male" or instead of "okay" it was "funny." I'm glad they changed it.
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It did, but the old name made it sound like we were saying rape was okay, which clearly wasn't the case. See the Rape Trope Renames
thread.
Where the heck would I put the one person saying to the other person, "You must have wanted it to happen."? Seems to crop up in all four (?) versions of rape, but is more acceptable when the victim is "in the closet" or "in denial".
AVERSIONS. This page has about as much aversions as it has examples. What the hell, I ask. EDIT: I just deleted "Literature" folder. IT WAS JUST AVERSIONS IN THERE.
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I've read the stories with Apollo, Lobo and Kyle Rayner. I didn't come away with the impression -any- of them were raped. For Apollo I just thought he was beaten severely. Lobo, it was kept vague about what happened to the guy. This, by Lobo's opponent who, despite being called Hitman makes it a point NOT to call women bitches. And Kyle makes a boatloads of money for DC, I don't think they'd allow him to be molested like that.
Speaking as someone around when the movie hit theaters, it wasn't "funny" except as a way of coping with how uncomfortable most 18-30 year old males were with it. It's definitely a lot more "funny" now, universally and all-around, than it was back then.
Should there be a note about the Japanese incarnation of this trope, where it's not Played for Laughs so much as it's typically played for straight-up eroticism? Like, Boys' Love and Yaoi works are pretty likely to basically be wall-to-wall Gratuitous Rape for one reason or another.
I would add this myself, but because I'm frankly utterly baffled by it, I don't feel qualified to comment on it beyond this.