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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
May 18th 2022 at 5:51:24 PM •••

You forgot one The Amazing World of Gumball episode. I forget the name, but Penny calls her dad Patrick out on oppressing his family, and he says, "I'm not oppressing this family! I'm just exercising my authority to force you into doing something you don't want to do!" And then Penny yells, "THAT IS THE EXACT DEFINITION OF OPPRESSION!"

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Mar 14th 2019 at 5:13:35 AM •••

"A common pattern among far-right Youtube channels is to make a big deal out of the tiny differences between the specific far-right subset said channel belongs to and other groups of far-right Youtube channels. The difference between a racist authoritarian calling himself a "race realist", a racist authoritarian calling himself a "classical liberal", and a racist authoritarian who openly identifies as a neo-Nazi can cause massive fights within the far-right community, even as the very similar political goals and talking points mean they all dissolve into a bigoted blur from the perspective of anyone further left than Joseph Mc Carthy." found this under the web original tab consider cutting it because of Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement and it doesn't seem to fit.

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016
Dec 18th 2016 at 2:48:17 PM •••

This example from The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy doesn't look fitting to me:

Billy: GRIM! Guess what I got on our camping trip! Guess guess guess guess guess!!
Grim: I don't know, Billy!... A rash?
Billy: No!... well, yes.

This example from Real Life, too, doesn't seem fitting. It's more like Blatant Lies:

  • Bob Barker once asked an obviously jittery game show contestant, "Are you nervous?" In reply, the man stammered, "Er, ah, um, no."

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LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
Dec 24th 2016 at 1:49:31 AM •••

Agreed.

The first example is just a Blatant Lie immediately followed by admitting that it was a lie - not DwaD.

The second is not DwaD either - the nervous man isn't talking about how "No" is totally different than "Er, ah, um"; he's just merely uttering these words. Would be more an example of Bad Liar than Blatant Lies, I think.

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JonVonBass The man, the vampire, the wraith, the sword! Since: Dec, 2014
The man, the vampire, the wraith, the sword!
Jul 26th 2015 at 4:58:42 AM •••

I think we should consider removing the Toy Story example since Buzz can't fly, only glide which is basically falling with style. Buzz can't gain altitude after taking off, at least not unassisted (as in, he doesn't have built in rockets or stuff like that).

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ading Yes. Since: Jan, 2011
Yes.
Mar 17th 2015 at 3:34:53 PM •••

"THIS IS NOT WAR! THIS IS PEST CON-TROL!" is not an example of this trope, as war and pest control are not synonymous.

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HeroicJay Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 17th 2015 at 3:43:28 PM •••

I'd say they're functionally synonymous when the "pests" are sentient beings.

ading Since: Jan, 2011
Apr 16th 2015 at 2:31:30 PM •••

^Not really, that would make it genocide, not war. But even aside from that, the quote is not "THIS IS NOT WAR! THIS IS CONTROL OF SENTIENT PESTS!". This trope is about a distinction being made between two things which are not in any way different. It isn't simply any misleading statement.

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Scrounge Faceless stranger Since: Jan, 2001
Faceless stranger
Nov 7th 2013 at 10:22:04 PM •••

How come we have "no Except Yes", but not "Yes Except No"?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 8th 2013 at 7:49:16 AM •••

Because that's either covered by No, Except Yes, or else it's a Dissimile. Either way, it's covered.

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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns Since: Jan, 2001
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Apr 24th 2011 at 2:16:29 PM •••

Removed, in reference to David Dinkins:

  • Technically, 'unlawful' and 'illegal' aren't the same thing. Illegal things are specifically banned, whereas unlawful things are non-exceptions to some sort of some general ban. For example, jaywalking is unlawful, but that's not illegal per se...it's just illegal for people to walk around in the road without following signals and signs, and jaywalking is a common way to do that. There is no crime of 'jaywalking'. However, failure to file taxes is explicitly illegal, so David Dinkins was just wrong.

I have a feeling Dinkins was quick to disclaim "committing a crime" because of stereotypes he might have feared being subject to. In any case, I don't think the removed section really captures the distinction he was going for.

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MorkaisChosen Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 11th 2011 at 1:26:19 PM •••

Cut the well-known {300} line, as Sparta is not synonymous with Madness.

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