Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Description is too long
, started by FallenLegend on Apr 27th 2011 at 7:08:03 AM
Was having trouble linking to Determinator via brackets from the Papa Wolf/Video Games section.
The page caption from Terminator to Rave master:
We should discuss this change. The Terminator Is a good example of a Determinator; think of the half-melted face, backup power, getting the big-bad, behing an unstoppable machine, etc...
QUOTE dRoy:
reason: Square round thingy, THE HELL? You are saying a guy walking around fire is closer to a Determinator than guy who are obviously bleeding to death and still trying to put up a fight? Also, (don't get me wrong, I LOVE Terminator), Trope Namer? Who the hell said THAT?
06/Jun/10 at 04:49 AM by dRoy 211.208.241.11
Changed lines 1 from:
->"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
Edited by 2bad
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I Must defeat him = Only I am allowed to Defeat him.
Even if it means my life = Heroic Sacrifice
Plus the Picture in Question is a Visual Spoiler from an obscure manga compared to the well know James Cameron Movie, and there for people can more easy associate with it.
[[User Banned]]_ My Pm box ix still open though, I think?
It is a fact that the Movie is known to more people, but also my point is that the terminators are very good exemple of determinators if you think about it.
In the first movie Arnie is an unstoppable force 'determined' to get his goal, even getting to the level of walking squeleton all in order to execute his mission. Of course he his but a machine and probably not affected by our petty humane emotions but...
In the second movie; the protagonist, while being a machine, the audience would think not at all affected by whether or not he lives or die, succeed or fails, etc. in fact just keeps goin on, after his apparent on-screen death, until he succeed in getting the big bad, saving his friends and finaly sacrificing himself for the greater good (if you discard the other movies of course)
At least from what I've read from the page about images just waking up I'll get a link later Images should be as well known as possible without Spoiling key pieces of the plot unless it is a spoiler trope.
[[User Banned]]_ My Pm box ix still open though, I think?
No idea what that image was supposed to be. Let's just skip the picture, if it is going to be this much trouble.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Here I was going to suggest this for the page image: 
Perhaps with the caption "Whatever, not like it was a serious heart attack. There's still work to be done." Or something along those lines.
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A Stoic Badass can also be a determinator or is this a trope more suited for Hot-Blooded characters?
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What about a person with the attitude of a determinator who dies anyways? Deconstruction?
For example, basically every Armored Core enemy character, most obviously Gerald Gendlin: when he dies, he's yelling at his robot that they "still have work to do," but it doesn't do him any good.
Being that Principal Skinner is "some kind of.. non-giving-up.. school guy" would he qualify?
I say eliminate the picture examples. You get less flame wars that way
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