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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 8:57:13 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused, started by tomandtish on Nov 6th 2018 at 1:42:44 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ZanDamascus Since: Nov, 2012
Oct 30th 2015 at 12:31:33 PM •••

Is there a good place to add the definition of Recursion: see Recursion joke?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 23rd 2014 at 1:05:08 PM •••

Yes, because the others are broken URLs which autmatically redirect to the homepage.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Eagal This is a title. Since: Apr, 2012
This is a title.
Jun 17th 2014 at 2:48:41 PM •••

Humorous and funny repetition for the sake of comedy and humor.

Like half of the things on here aren't examples.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Harmonex Since: Jun, 2011
Oct 25th 2013 at 4:21:53 PM •••

In an interesting twist of ironic twists (which are interesting), the title of the trope does not necessarily fall into the category that it is describing.

If a fire department is in regards to fire, then a department of redundancy department could be a department that is in regards to "departments of redundancy". Perhaps it is a major department within a large organization that keeps track of minor (or local) departments of redundancy from smaller organizations. Much like OSHA and Human Resources can involve the same things, but are on completely different levels.

Unless you consider the hierarchy of regulation to be a redundancy, then it falls squarely within this trope (but not in the same way).

Candi Sorcerer in training Since: Aug, 2012
Sorcerer in training
Nov 25th 2012 at 1:17:43 AM •••

"Every now and again, some unsuspecting editor will add an example to a trope page without checking to see if that page contains an example from that series already. If it does (especially if the example itself is repeated), that page becomes an example of this trope, albeit usually only temporarily."

I find them mildly tolerable in different entries (Film/Literature being common cross folders) on the idea that not everyone reads every entry of every folder. (I tend to skip Web Originals and Fanfic, myself, and scan through Video Games.) Otherwise, most repeat entries are mildly annoying. (And easy to fix.)

But I find repeat entries 'especially aggravating under two particular circumstances: 1) The first of the duplicate entries is the first one in the folder. How did the submitter of the second miss it!?

2) The entries are only one or two entries apart. (A, B, C, A) Again, how did they miss it?

Also rather annoying if the subject has an unusual or peculiar spelling in the name.

I usually just move the things together, one subentry to the other, and maybe edit a little bit so the reader doesn't feel they landed here by accident. Lots of editing (or merging) on subjects I'm not familiar with has to wait until someone who knows them comes along. (Since I don't know exactly what's important to the entry.)

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Mirmulnir Since: Jul, 2012
Jul 12th 2012 at 7:15:34 AM •••

Is it worth having another categories, an 'other' category for examples which can only go in this category because they won't go in any other categories?

I can think of a couple of ideas already:

Names where the first and last name are the same.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 12th 2012 at 9:49:01 AM •••

On the second one, I guess it takes a lot to convince people that Britain and Northern Ireland are actually united!

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ Since: Jan, 2001
I am now a shiny stone~
Feb 23rd 2012 at 5:57:06 AM •••

I kinda miss the old Droste Image we used to have for this page. Would anyone have a backup of it for archival purposes?

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
W3irdN3rd Since: May, 2011
Nov 25th 2011 at 6:29:16 PM •••

There's a good example in the "Doof Dynasty" episode of Phineas and Ferb, but I can't quote it properly because I have the Dutch version from the telly. Perhaps someone else who has English could add it.

ChibiSebastian Since: Dec, 2010
Oct 14th 2011 at 12:40:43 AM •••

Would a jar of peanut butter with a label "Warning! Contains peanuts!" fit here?

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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 31st 2011 at 10:50:16 AM •••

Yes it would, I wanted to add something like that too, but what would it fall under?

Warning Labels that Warn?

LeonardoFibonacci Since: Jul, 2010
Mar 16th 2011 at 2:32:08 PM •••

Am I missing the joke for Repeatedly Used on This Very Wiki? Because if there is a pun or whatever, I'm totally not getting whatever it is. Can anyone enlighten me?

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Kahran042 The Topic Slayer Since: Jun, 2012
The Topic Slayer
Jun 3rd 2011 at 11:09:27 PM •••

I'm not sure if this goes here, but any reference to the "OZ Organization" in Gundam Wing might count as this, since "OZ" is an acronym for "Organization of the Zodiac."

Oh no! The DREADED AQUAE MORTIS! No, wait, it's just your imagination.
Aielyn Since: May, 2011
May 15th 2011 at 8:29:55 AM •••

While I appreciate that it was done to emphasise the trope, the naming of folder names becomes rather confusing, thus it is difficult to quickly find a category quickly.

Perhaps it would be better to emphasise it more by having redundant folders within redundant folders, or getting a little more clever with the approach to naming ("Literature Books" and "Film Movies" would be easy to navigate and very navigable, while eschewing and avoiding complex complications of redundant naming redundancies).

210.184.37.185 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 12th 2011 at 11:17:22 PM •••

Hmmm... "Superfluous section of the Redundant Department of the Bureaucratic Bureau of Redundancy"

bhl88 Since: Apr, 2009
Mar 17th 2011 at 8:57:18 PM •••

Where did all of the repeated folders go to.

ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad Since: Jul, 2010
Resident pretentious dickwad
Feb 14th 2011 at 12:26:14 PM •••

I replaced the page quote

"I'll kill you! I'll kill you to DEATH!"
Superboy Prime, Countdown To Final Crisis
with
"Why do you keep saying that?" I said.
"Bears repeated repetition."
— Passage from The Subject Steve,
putting the former on the quotes page. Noticed now that it had been changed back. As I want to avoid an edit war, I'm now posing this question; How is a repetition of the word 'kill' more fitting as a page quote than a repetition of the word 'repetition'?

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Feb 14th 2011 at 12:38:20 PM •••

It's not the repitition of the word "kill", it's the idea of killing someone to death because "to death" is redundant with "kill".

ArtisticPlatypus Since: Jul, 2010
Feb 14th 2011 at 1:12:20 PM •••

Yeah, I understand that. Still, 'kill you, kill you to death' is just an example of the trope played straight. A good example (With the killing part being repeated not two but three times), but still more or less interchangeable with any of the quotes on the quotes page. The Subject Steve quite goes one step further. Sure, a straight example is good, but the Madden quote already is that. A second one seems somewhat... Redundant?

Edited by ArtisticPlatypus This implies, quite correctly, that my mind is dark and damp and full of tiny translucent fish.
MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Feb 14th 2011 at 1:22:24 PM •••

I dunno, maybe three of a kind beats even a pair of aces?

Poker metaphor aside, I'm not partial either way, though Superboy's rant has in its favor that it's a blue link, so you could follow that for context, while The Subject Steve appears not to. Many tropers will favor mainstream over obscurity for main page quotes. You could put it on Quotes.Department Of Redundancy Department, though.

ArtisticPlatypus Since: Jul, 2010
Feb 14th 2011 at 1:27:53 PM •••

Yeah, I've done that. Redlink is quite a valid counterargument though. I was planning to make a works page for The Subject Steve eventually, but until then.

..Aaaand done.

Edited by ArtisticPlatypus This implies, quite correctly, that my mind is dark and damp and full of tiny translucent fish.
Asmo Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 30th 2010 at 3:10:42 PM •••

I just wanted all you to know that you are awesome and I love you.

Especially because of the folder's name, but especially because of this:

"You know what they say: All toasters toast toast!" "Toast doesn't go in a toaster, bread does." "Would you like some toast?" WHO WANTS TOAST!!? Toasty! Not now, Son. I'm making... TOAST!! Break out the butter... Gonna make TOAST! ''Brought to you by the Toast Marketing Board.


Don't change. Never.

Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
Sep 12th 2010 at 10:21:57 PM •••

I know that the joke is to show redundancy, but could we PLEASE remove the multiple entries on the index? it makes it impossible to go through the index without having to find the next item on the list in the list.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
152.30.226.108 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 24th 2010 at 3:49:52 PM •••

This page used to say the Death Star novel was the Trope Namer, and now it's this band. What gives?

86.133.178.163 Since: Dec, 1969
May 5th 2010 at 11:19:12 AM •••

Just how can Beijing have a Chinatown? Isn't that like London having a neighbourhood named Little London?

Milly Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 26th 2010 at 8:53:54 PM •••

I know the joke is about having the page demonstrate the trope in question, but is it really necessary to have it done with just about every single example there? I can't even read more than two before either being completely confused or pissed off.

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SomeGuy Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 27th 2010 at 11:49:08 AM •••

I'm not totally sure what you mean- most of what I see on this page are just direct quotes.

See you in the discussion pages.
case Since: Jan, 2001
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