The Sneaky Idiot
Why is it the good ones always go?
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It’s shame about this page. It was real great. Some examples like Walter White were reaching tho.
Y.20
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Per TRS
, this is now a disambiguation page.
But where does Kylo Ren go now? He was this page's Most Triumphant Example!
Edited by Medinoc "And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
The Italian Samurai
Should Sephiroth and his frequent expies in Japanese RP Gs be split from this trope into a "Sephiroth Clone" subtrope?
And does Vholran from Tales of Arise count as this trope?
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He defected in the very first episode, he isn't The Dragon. Also, no You Have Failed Me, no black cloak, mask or any other likeness to Vader beyond Guttural Growler and a sword.
The only Anime example here is also called a Char Clone, but isn't Char himself arguably a Darth Vader Clone?
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In the comics, he never outright joined the Joker and became his servant, so no. He became an anti-hero who wanted to kill villains and questioned Batman's stance. Darth Vader Clone is outright joining the dark side...
That applies to Batman: Arkham Knight where the AK actually did join the Scarecrow and participated in a terrorist plot and kidnapped and compromised one of the Batfamily.
The Sneaky Idiot
Would Shay Cormac from Assassin's Creed count? He has at least a few examples of this (Former Assassin turned Templar, Anti-Villain, Fallen Hero, and although he doesn't have armor (I think), he is dressed in black, knew Achllies, the mentor of the Colonial Assassins, and is The Dragon to Haytham Kenway, and mainly uses swords for his weapon of choice)
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As a rule of thumb how many points need to be filled in order for someone to count?
"Anyone who has seen Felix the Cat: The Movie would get this! " Hmm...sounds very ZCE-ish. I'm not familiar enough with it to fix, though.
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Yeah, that's a terrible example. I'm trying to find enough about him to write an actual entry.
Go-go-go-go my way!
I do wonder, would Judai Yuki (as Haou Judai) from Yu-Gi-Oh! GX in Season 3 be one? He did have some of the traits:
- Wears a life support mask or a similar mask. Bonus points if he has Vader Breath.
- Wears Dark Armor, often including a kabuto-like Cool Helmet.
- Has a Badass Cape
- May turn out to be a colleague of The Mentor or related to one of the protagonists. Especially if he's an Archnemesis Dad. If the mentor is killed in action, the Vader Clone is likely the one to do it.
- May have been a Fallen Hero.
- Often a Magic Knight or equivalent.
- Is sometimes The Dragon instead of the Big Bad, as the original Vader was. In this case, the Darth Vader clone often supports a physically weaker, less combative, or more magical evil mastermind.
- May also have complex motivations that make him/her more of an Anti-Villain, although still somewhat dark.
- Speaks in a really deep voice. Expect his/her voice to either sound metallic or machine-like as well if possible, which is tied to the mask, armor, and fall from grace.
- Carries a weapon. Commonly a sword. Bonus points if it's red.
- Possibly Reforged into a Minion.
- May pull a Heel–Face Turn in the end of the story.
- May sometimes be the main character.
Bonus Points: The way he fell is reminiscent of how Anakin fell, by being too impulsive as he tried to save someone he cared about. (And may count as Love Makes You Crazy depending how you look at it)
Seriously, look at
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guy.
There is no reason for him to be looking like that unless it was a deliberate Shout-Out.
Having watched the anime a long time ago I say he counts, the only major differences being that the Supreme King was the Big Bad of his arc and didn't answer to anyone (even Yubel wasn't actually his boss) and his armor not being life support.
Very well. I just have problems coming up with a good text, but don't worry.
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Go-go-go-go my way!
Wait, the text with Sally O'Neil doesn't say why she really is this trope.
- Sadist Teacher Sally O'Neil serves this to Big Bad Wannabe Rancid Rabbit in the CatDog Drama Bomb Finale of season 2, Back to School. Turns out she seems to be a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing (as well as the Greater-Scope Villain throughout the entire show) considering that Cat's annoys her for no reason what so ever.
Should I erase it? Or she really is one and the text is poorly phrased?
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This is a title.
So like I've said, going by the list Obito doesn't fit. He's The Dragon with a deep voice and a mask. Even adding Fallen Hero into the mix there's tons of characters out there that fit these qualifications and aren't Vader Clones. May well say Durbe from Yugioh Zexal is a Darth Vader Clone. Deep voice, mask, fallen hero. These things alone do not a Vader make.
- None of these are comparable to Tobi of Naruto. He is Obito Uchiha, who was the direct parallel to Naruto until he suffered grievous injuries, resulting in replacing his crushed half of the body with an artificial body. He then gain a Mask, then a Freudian Excuse to become a Fallen Hero, and The Heavy Dragon of The Man Behind the Man. He speaks in a really deep voice. He then ended up battling his former teacher, Minato the Fourth Hokage, and being responsible for the man's death, and love to turn heroes to his side so he can betray his master. Japanese Vader, say hello to your fanbase.
Removed this example:
"Darth Malak from Knights Of The Old Republic is possibly the most obvious Darth Vader expy."
While Malak shares a few characteristics with Vader, he does not fit this trope. First and most obviously, his armor is red, not black, his "mask" does not cover his entire face, and he is not a cyborg (well, other than his jaw). Second, his relationship with the main protagonist is completely different; Master and apprentice rather than son and father. He is also the Big Bad and not The Dragon.
If anyone thinks this example should be re-added post your arguments here.
What do you call a character an expy of Darth Vader, if not called Darth Vader Clone?
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