Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Good ol' Trope Decay
, started by RocketScience on Feb 10th 2011 at 5:08:05 AM
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Misused, started by WhatArtThee on Aug 30th 2016 at 11:36:25 PM
I take is Garagamel is actually competent in Smurfs hardcore. Though I don't know what Smurfette having boobs is about when smurfs don't even have nipples.
How about stand alone works that are dark without being compared to others? I know that Berserk is Dark Fantasy, or a lot of Cyberpunk works are dark per se, without being compared to one another.
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No, that doesn't fit the trope. This is for sequels and seasons that are darker than their prdecessors.
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An example that occurs in reality, outside of fiction. And Real Life examples are not allowed here unfortunately.
"Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter." -Dr. Seuss
The world got Darker and Edgier during the times of World War One and World War Two, then it got Lighter and Softer for a bit before becoming Darker and Edgier during the Cold War. Now, it's Lighter and Softer, though it's gotten slightly Darker and Edgier with the war and 9/11 and everything.
"Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter." -Dr. Seuss
It was also Darker and Edgier during the dinosaur age, because the world was filled with vicious sharp-toothed predators out to kill you. After they went extinct, it got Lighter and Softer because the world was then populated by cute furry creatures.
In any case, I can't understand why Real Life examples aren't allowed. Anyone can agree that the world got Darker and Edgier during the World Wars. And during the Dark Ages.
Edited by Kingcobrasaurus "Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter." -Dr. Seuss
If Real Life examples were allowed it would potentially start a flame war. If you want to talk about how dark the world is/was, Take It To The Forums.
There are a lot of examples given that aren't Darker and Edgier, they're just Dark and Edgy. Dollhouse is mentioned as being Darker than Joss Whedon's other work. Ok, so what? People do different tone work. But this trope should be (or seems to be anyway) used for a change occurring in a work itself, or in remakes/reboots. Comparisons between completely separate works shouldn't be included.
Either someone needs to change this so it's more neutral in tone, or it needs to be split into Darker And Better and Darker And Worse, since as it stands, the article is entirly in the "Darker And Worse" category. Remember people TROPES ARE NOT BAD! There are lots of examples of works that are made better with this treatment. This article is far too one-sided.
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A reasonable complaint. I rewrote the article and cut a bunch of the examples. From this point onwards, feel free to nuke anything that reeks of complaining about shows for being too dark and edgy.
Edited by SomeGuy See you in the discussion pages.
I liked the whole "grimdark grimdark grimdark" title blurb. Motion to put it back. Just because there's some good reason why the trope doesn't deserve how much it does get made fun of, this still doesn't overrule the Rule of Funny.
Edited by Dab I pretend to be a troll because it makes it easier for you to dismiss my opinion.
Those posts are almost 3 years old.
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
Mah boi!
I believe that we should make Grimdark redirect to Tastes Like Dirt instead of to here. Does anyone know how to do that?
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We should rename that trope into Grimdark
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.
I agree with Master Hand. As the Tasted Like Dirt entry says, "Darker and Edgier is relative; i.e., in comparison to an earlier work in the franchise, this work is a lot edgier. This is an absolute trope: all examples are Grim Dark from beginning to end."
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Mweheheh
Could we get a Canon page image here, please?
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Agreed!
"Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter." -Dr. Seuss
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Overdramatized examples
, started by PrimoVictoria on Jun 27th 2011 at 3:05:49 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman