Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Would like permission to reduce description., started by FallenLegend on Aug 22nd 2011 at 2:01:38 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanLinking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Massive Decay, started by Raso on Sep 13th 2011 at 10:50:13 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanPrevious Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by ScrewySqrl on Mar 8th 2019 at 3:29:19 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanOk, I just removed the Films — Live Action folder. Since that might considered as major edit, and my edit reason mess up anyway, I'm post the reason behind it here.
There were three entries there.
- The Craft misuse it. If all of them are this trope then it's just Black Magician Girl, as this trope is about foil character.
- The other two entries violate Examples Are Not Arguable policy. And despite the claim of them being Spear Counterpart, it's still read more like Square Peg Round Trope.
Uh, why was this trope re-formatted to mean "Anti-villainous magical female rival"? Because that seems way too specific to happen outside of Magical Girl animes and the SMT series, and will get way too little attention.
...Burn...This has a lot of Zero Context Examples. Pulling them until they get some context.
- Pictured above is Fate Testarossa from Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, perhaps the quintessential example.
- Lutecia from Nanoha StrikerS fits the bill pretty well, too.
- Runessa is essentially this to Teana in Strikers Sound Stage X. Granted, both of them are very liberal interpretations of MG and DMG characters but their dichotomy is nevertheless obvious.
- Einhart Stratos from ViVid seems to be an Older Alter Ego take on DMG.
- One of the first DMGs is Non, Meg's rival from Majokko Meg Chan.
- We also have Karen, Sally's Shadow Archetype from the second Sally The Witch series.
- Pixy Misa from the Pretty Sammy series.
- Yugi from Tenchi In Tokyo, who is also the rare Big Bad version.
- Freesia Yagyuu from Jubei-chan season 2. She doubles as a Ninja.
- The "Tasogare no Miko" (Priestesses of the Twilight) in Asagiri no Miko.
- To an extent, Valkyrie Ghost in UFO Princess Valkyrie.
- Takako, aka Fenrir the Princess of Disaster, in Pretear, who is also the Big Bad. And Himeno's stepsister Mawata, while under her influence.
I can only talk about the ones I clearly remember, so.
- Karen from Sally The Witch? Very much so. She was cast away from Astoria as a little girl alongside her evil father, was poisoned with hate bt said father, returned with a big grudge against Sally herself, attempted to separate her from her human friends via her black magic, was less purely evil and much more EXTREMELY bitter and hurt over being alone for years, Sally defeated her with both her magic and The Power of Friendship, AND she ultimately had a Heel–Face Turn.
- Yugi from Tenchi In Tokyo. I'd say she counts too. She was an Artficial Human created for experiments, had few idea of how the world worked as well as how much she hurt others with her powers, was sealed away by an Empress as the only solution despite how she was terrified of darkness and isolation, grew VERY bitter and brewed a plan to conquer the Universe (which involved creating Sakuya to break havoc among Tenchi and his Unwanted Harem among other things), befriended Sasami who became her Morality Pet (to the point of deliberately keeping her outta her plans, and then kidnapping her to keep her by her side), and to defeat Yugi Tenchi had to reason with her instead of killing her.
Therefore I'll pull Karen and Yugi back, providing the context as well. Sorry for any inconvenience. (I'd also re-add Lutecia, but I haven't seen Striker S in a while, so I can't do it right now.)
Looks much better than before. Thank you!
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - FighteerThe opening of this article seems awkwardly phrased and the word choice kind of neuters its impact — it's something that seems quotable but it really isn't a very good quote.
"A young girl's greatest fear isn't monsters. It isn't evil. It isn't even death.
Her greatest fear is to be alone."
seems a lot better to me.
Hide / Show RepliesSince you posted this, the intro has been reworked entirely. I think that was a mistake — the original version is one of the most memorable descriptions on the site, and not only did it get a Made Of Win, it's been quoted pretty often around the net. On the other hand, you have a point about the wording. I've come up with a new version that I think is a good compromise.
FiveMinute.net: because stuff is long and life is short
It was decided to limit Dark Magical Girl to only examples that are Shadow Archetypes whose story arc / theming distort, subvert, or twist the ideas of The Power of Love and The Power of Friendship. TRS thread here.
Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.