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lavendermintrose Since: Nov, 2012
Jul 7th 2016 at 8:23:40 PM •••

So... is there a trope page for being compassionate when it's not actually a way to put the person down? You know, like, actually caring about someone and wanting to help them? Or is that something the wiki has decided is just a myth?

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angelthread1w9 The Infinitely Curious Since: Aug, 2013
The Infinitely Curious
Jul 1st 2014 at 7:14:42 PM •••

I think I've had problems with people like this before... which is why I hate the people supposedly trying to "help" me...

I'm not sure how to get into all the details, but yeah.

"Hell exists not to punish sinners, but to ensure that nobody sins in the first place." - Eikishiki Yamaxanadu (Touhou) Hide / Show Replies
angelthread1w9 Since: Aug, 2013
Jul 1st 2014 at 7:15:18 PM •••

Well, I'm kind of tired from my allergies anyway. :(

"Hell exists not to punish sinners, but to ensure that nobody sins in the first place." - Eikishiki Yamaxanadu (Touhou)
LogoP Since: May, 2013
Jul 14th 2014 at 11:43:17 AM •••

While i'm sorry to hear about the difficulties you've faced because other people were being smug and condescending, this isn't really relevant to the article.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 14th 2014 at 11:53:44 AM •••

Eh, they have been banned a while ago.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Jul 21st 2014 at 10:41:32 PM •••

Huh. What for, and what were they talking about in the first place? I confess vague curiosity.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 22nd 2014 at 1:26:43 AM •••

Look up Ask The Tropers.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Samadhir Since: Jan, 2010
May 12th 2014 at 5:26:42 AM •••

As a personal opinion: I think perhaps this should be another trope we shouldn't have real life examples of.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 8th 2014 at 5:40:16 AM •••

Might be advisable, yeah, given the Flame Bait-y nature of much material her. Anyhow, you may want to propose it here where more people (and Powers That Be) will see it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
StevieC Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 14th 2014 at 8:59:31 AM •••

I, for one, vehemently disagree. there is very much cause for keeping real-life examples on the page, especially the ones regarding the nature of ableism.

LogoP Since: May, 2013
Jul 14th 2014 at 11:41:19 AM •••

This is a wiki, not a soapbox for social issues. One of our primary goals is to avoid flaming caused by controversial subjects.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
NanoMoose (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 28th 2013 at 5:38:49 AM •••

I feel compelled to say that "critics of Autism Speaks" are not usually touting themselves as charitable organisations that accept donations to research ways of making people autistic. Also, that there are no autistic people among the leadership of Autism Speaks. Those who criticise Autism Speaks think people's minds are extremely diverse; Autism Speaks tells people their children are diseased changelings. Compassion, contempt. Positive, negative.

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StevieC Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 14th 2014 at 9:02:28 AM •••

Autism Speaks has a track-record of supporting eugenics and have described autism as "a fate worse than death", implying that it would be "merciful" to kill autistic people. Their mission statement is to eliminate autism from the world. They shamelessly call autistic people a "burden".

Frank75 Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 28th 2013 at 1:47:37 AM •••

Let me just point out one thing: While it is true that pity/compassion and contempt/loathing are not that far from each other, they still are NOT the same. In both cases the person expressing pity/contempt perceives the other person as somehow disadvantaged, but in the first case the second person is seen in a positive way, and in a negative one in the second. That difference is what matters.

Again: Contempt. Use this word.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 9th 2012 at 8:09:27 AM •••

Edited by SeptimusHeap "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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