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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Jun 13th 2021 at 2:55:17 PM •••

Imagine if there was a multiverse crossover where two characters of one continuity meet their composite counterpart. Like "Who are you?" And the other guy says "I'm you, and also him."

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207.62.238.111 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 11th 2010 at 11:49:41 AM •••

Two examples I cut:

• Jesus is a composite character of Horus (With the virgin Mary being Isis), Mithras, Attis, Krishna, Buddha, Shed and Dionysus (just read Charles François Dupuis's work on the subject)... Elements have been substracted but the affinities remain...

  • The "popular culture" version of Mary Magdalene from The Bible is an amalgamation of several different women from the gospels. The real Mary Magdalene had seven demons driven out of her by Jesus; this is all that's truly known about their relationship. Martha's sister Mary, the woman at the well, the woman caught in adultery, and the woman who poured the ointment on Jesus' head were all different women.
    • There is no evidence they cannot be the same, and the woman at the well/the adulteress about to be stoned are rarely identified with Mary Magdalene.
    • Neither is there any evidence that they are the same; there are also other, howewer for the most part historical, instances of attempted amalgamation of diferrent biblical characters, such as the tax-collector Zacchaeus and the Apostole Matthias, both of which were also confused with the Evangelist Mathew (Matthaeus).

I've heard these theories before, but I don't know how respected they are, and I don't want to have dubious examples. I'll look for someone who knows a bit about the Bible to determine whether they should be used, and with what qualifiers.

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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
May 1st 2021 at 7:32:02 AM •••

[Retracted]

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 2nd 2010 at 4:53:05 PM •••

How about splitting into From Real Life (composite real life characters in a fictioalisation) and From Fiction (composite fictional characters in an adaptation)?

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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
May 1st 2021 at 7:31:27 AM •••

I don't think you need to make the distinction.

MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Apr 18th 2021 at 6:18:17 PM •••

Do in-universe dreams count? Like the episode of Bob's Burgers "Flu-ouise" where Linda, Bob, Tina and Gene melted her Kuchi Kopi, and they were represented in her dream as some of her toys? Like they were those toys, but had their voices.

Stardust Since: Aug, 2014
MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Aug 19th 2020 at 10:40:56 AM •••

That's not what this is talking about. It's talking about characters from an adapted work being merged into one, smartass. What you just described is a patchwork kid.

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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:07:59 AM •••

Also, are you asking or telling? The "?" suggests you're asking a question!

NeutralPerson Since: Dec, 2013
Oct 22nd 2014 at 6:58:55 PM •••

Wouldn't the fusion character from the Majin Buu saga of Dragon Ball Z count, like Gotenks or Buu himself?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 23rd 2014 at 1:32:05 AM •••

Hrmm, I am sceptical.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Mar 8th 2021 at 11:14:39 AM •••

No, this doesn't refer to fusions, this refers to an adaptation in which one character plays the role of two or more characters from the source. Sometimes said character might be given the others' appearance of personality traits. Like for example, the Batgirl in Super Best Friends Forever and the DCSHG TV series is Barbara Gordon, but has the personality of Stephanie Brown. Get it? Or a more obvious example is King Koopa from the Di C cartoons, who's physical appearance is a combination of Bowser and Wart.

MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Feb 26th 2021 at 8:31:11 AM •••

My Aphrodite depiction has the war goddess and motherly qualities of Venus, since, like many, I consider them the same being by different names. As for Ishtar/Inanna, I'm making her into an Annunaki, which in my lore are grey-like aliens under the god guise, derived from the Ancient Astronaut theory.

MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Aug 19th 2020 at 10:41:56 AM •••

Is there a location version? Since Saurusaland from the Mario movie is a composite of the Mushroom Kingdom, Dinosaur Land and Sarasaland. Not to mention Wonderland and Looking Glass World are often merged into a single location.

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MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Aug 29th 2014 at 3:37:01 PM •••

This bit was added recently: "In some extreme cases with certain stories that have regular adaptations every few years, an Era-Specific Personality gives them the opportunity to fuse specific versions of the SAME character in different adaptations, making them a composite character of themselves."

Correct me if i am mistaken, but two versions of the same character are not two or more characters.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 29th 2014 at 6:30:35 PM •••

The line was written in as taking a cue from a few examples that have popped up, which may be a hair on the outside of the trope definition but still uses the concept of the trope in spirit. For instance, on the Batman Forever page it lists the Riddler as combining elements of his Silver Age spandex wearing trickster, and the Bronze Age business suit wearing narcissist. Those two versions have the same name and a common theme of using Riddles, but in practice were two different characters with different motivations. Similarly, a modern adaptation could take traits of a character in the main continuity while adapting traits of a previous adaptation version of the character that was radically different, thus actually being two different characters by virtue of Alternate Universe.

Instead of making a tacky "this is not an appropriate example" on the description and combing the wiki for the maybe 12 examples that use the trope in that way, I figured it was less of a headache to make an exception for those types of examples.

MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
Aug 30th 2014 at 5:01:54 PM •••

I other words, you agrees that this not followed the trope description. You discussed with other tropers before of put this bit?

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 31st 2014 at 9:16:59 PM •••

All depends on how you decide to interpret "two or more characters." Some may agree that a character with the same name but two wildly different characterizations would count as two different characters, and thus could merge the two different characterizations in an adaptation. I think the examples have merit in the spirit of the trope and really didn't feel like running out a TRS to get troper consensus. If you want to do so, feel free.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 1st 2014 at 1:40:44 AM •••

These kind of description rewrites have a habit of creating problems (making descriptions murky, cuaing tropers to complain about the undiscussed change...). I would take them to the forums if I were you.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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