Would children conceived through drunken one night stands count? Like Emma from Friends and the main characters' child from Knocked Up? Because, to quote Sexual Harassment and Rape Tropes on the trope But Liquor Is Quicker, "Having sex with someone while they're inebriated is considered rape because the person likely wouldn't have consented if they were sober."
Edited by MildudeTroper pirami removes this entry "* The Handmaid's Tale: All of the children the Handmaids give birth to, as they're slaves who have no say in the matter." and left the following reasoning: "Removed the reference to The Handmaid's Tale, since Offred explicitly states while unpacking the issue, that she's in a complicated situation that, all the same, does not qualify as rape because she ultimately has consented to it when given a menu of options from which to select a vocation in Gilead."
I disagree, and have messaged them about it. Handmaids can't say no, or quit and are property. How this could possibly be consensual, even assuming Offred says that (it isn't a part I remember from the show) is quite beyond me. From what I recall, there only other choice was the Colonies, meaning a slow death from radiation poisoning. So that's textbook coercion and duress.
Edited by FirebloodThe Oni Chichi example is from a hentai series. Isn't this against site policy?
Hide / Show RepliesThere is no rule against such works having examples; they are only barred from having pages (and links to content for obvious reasons.)
Someone neglected to actually name the webcomic this example comes from:
- Brady & Honey Smith, the two sucessive Kids from the Future (though they're actually the same kid from two different futures, it's complicated.) Their origin was much debated amongst the fandom (since a Gender Bender was involved) until it was finally revealed that it was actually fairly mundane and tawdry "got drunk, woke up pregnant" affair, causing some fans to cry Wallbanger.
Move to remove the "Truth in Television" part about non-human animals as calling even forceful mating of non-sapient animals to human crime is extremely controversial in itself and can risk coming off as rape apologists. Additionally the specific example given, ducks, actually have mechanisms against forced copulation meaning the trope hardly applies. Additionally, not stating the species that don't do this makes it come off as way more common than it is; or thorough across the species it can happen in. But listing aversions would defeat the point and be way too long.
All in all, the paragraph means well but outside of noting the study about pregnancies by rape vs. consensual sex it is irrelevant at best, apologetic to a horrible crime at worst.
Edited by Tarbtano