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What's the difference between "natural" examples and the regular (unnatural?) examples? There's nothing about that in the trope description.
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That was brought up on TRS, and consensus was to merge the sections.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
TRS consensus was to merge the two sections:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1564847600086053500&page=1
The name sucks because it is nether clever nor referencing anything, basically its lazy with no thought put into it.
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Honestly, I think Instrumentality was a better name. I mean, you really don't get it if you haven't seen Neon Genesis Evangelion, but I figured it out within two hours of finding this site just by looking at how the term was used. On the other hand, assimilation plot sounds so... Bland. XP
Agreed. "Instrumentality" is a name that actually illustrates the concept and it's very memorable!
I think everyone wants the name back to Instrumentality. I dind't even know the trope namer but it wasn't important. Assimilation Plot sounds like You Will Be Assimilated or The Virus, or something like that. Instrumentality was a far better name.
Seconded. No one bitches when the Doctor Who crazies name every trope after something the five-hundred-and-seventy-third Doctor did, and even when I am not familiar with nor particularly a fan of a series that provides a trope's name, I can appreciate the novelty of the circumstances surrounding the Trope Namers.
Let's not start acting like the Wikitards and policing all of the fun out of T Vtropes.
In case anyone is watching this topic, I have an idea for this page written out below. I clicked "new topic" instead of "reply" by mistake.
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Or "Unity". Btw, is Starlight Glimmer from MLP series an example of Assimilation Plot? She had plan to expand to whole kingdom.
What exactly is the difference between an Assimilation Plot and World of Silence?
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The latter is about free will and the former about disagreements, basically.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Really? One of the main examples is a spoiler? Could someone who knows a better non-spoiler example fix that?
Never trust the teller. Trust the tale. -D.H. Lawrence
I think the naming controversy stems from this trope not being about one thing, rather it treats many related tropes under the same title. I see four tropes, all of which describe a story in which humanity moves (or is being threatened with moving) from a situation of Many Minds, Many Bodies to:
- One Mind, Many Bodies: i.e., the Hive Mind like Star Trek's Borg
- Many Identical Minds, Many Bodies: i.e., The Evils of Free Will and the Cybermen of Dr Who
- One Mind, One Body: i.e., the Human Instrumentality Project of Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Many Minds, One Body: i.e., Split Personality but with cooperative rather than competing personalities. I can't think of an example for this one, but it involves individuals retaining some form of individuality while constituting a singular entity (like the form of Nirvana mentioned on the main page and like how a growing number of brain scientists view the human mind working)
As currently described, Assimilation Plot does not distinguish between these. I believe, especially given the original name of this article and the existence of pages for the first two, that this page was supposed to describe the third variation (One Mind, One Body). Perhaps this page could be kept as a Super-Trope encompassing the four variations listed above while Instrumentality is changed from a redirect to a page describing variation 3. I'd like to hear comments before I change anything.
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I really would have to agree, as this entire Page is quickly starting to become...well, Flanderized at this point.
Thing's that would of never fit here before, are now put here with the rest that used to carry a completely different meaning.
Somehow separating the different kinds of Assimilation "would" really help stop the ongoing decay this Page is going ever since we rejected Instrumentality.
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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: YouWillBeAssimilated vs.
, started by Leaper on Jun 12th 2011 at 9:47:32 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman