I just found the discussion on it. Apparently the terms were not used much out side of star trek and was too much a ymmv, which is true, however most people agree on certain quality issues for various plots within trek and a few other ensemables. The problem is it's subjective based on ensembles. I am thinking about digging out a new version of this by a new name and making it a trivia. I think the problem here is those of us who like subjective are being out voted.
I agree that Good Troi Episode should be its own trope. A Day In The Limelight is an episode focusing on a minor character. Good Troi Episode is a good episode featuring a usually-boring major character.
I second this. I actually came to this page looking for the good Troi trope. It's a sister trope to Limelight, not a part of it.
Good Troi Episode has nothing to do with A Day in the Limelight. Troi was a main character.
I'm also puzzled why these two were combined, they are two radically different tropes.
Radically different to the point that Troi isn't even listed as an example on this new trope.
It's another case of renaming a trope for the sake of renaming it.
Image suggestion, from what is basically This Trope: The Movie.
Somehow, I like that. Put it under consideration in Image Picking.
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So, did anything come of this? Since the discussion started in 2011 I obviously haven't tried to look up "Good Troi Episode" in a long time, but I share the issue that they made a new trope by renaming another, different trope - and I believe the concept of a "good episode or sub-plot focusing on a normally unpopular character" is a valid concept.
It's super effective.
- Season 19 of Doctor Who was written with the idea of giving each companion a story where they could do more than ask the Doctor questions and get captured. As it turned out Nyssa got to play an Identical Stranger, Tegan got to taste Demonic Possession and Adric got to... die.
- The new series gives us the Donna-centric episode "Turn Left". The Doctor only appears very briefly in the beginning and the end, except for the bit in the middle where he appears as a sheet-covered corpse.
- Word of God has stated that this was done for the reason of filming two episodes at once, specifically Midnight where Donna only appears at the very beginning and end.
- The new series gives us the Donna-centric episode "Turn Left". The Doctor only appears very briefly in the beginning and the end, except for the bit in the middle where he appears as a sheet-covered corpse.
The companion has been argued to be the protagonist. Certainly Donna is on equal footing with Tennant, with Catherine Tate being the only one to share top billing with Tennant in seven of series 4's 13 episodes. The Doctor and Donna are not an ensemble, in other words.
- "Love And Monsters" and "Blink" (in new series 2 and 3 respectively) both focus on previously unseen characters. The Doctor appears very briefly in each of them, as well being a DVD Easter Egg in the latter.
Too minor, no matter how beloved Sally is. Seems to be Lower-Deck Episode.
Since it has its own subtrope, the Music section should be zapped from here with the examples transferred. I'll do it when I have time (but I won't mind if anyone beats me to it).
Why is Good Troi Episode an alternate title rather than its own trope? An episode where The Scrappy is a good character is a pretty commom thing.
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