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kyeo Since: Jun, 2010
Jan 24th 2019 at 9:35:41 AM •••

Is it me or is this page a mess? It's supposed to be just for the first novel but there are a bunch of examples listed for the sequels (who all have their own subpages), some of them even with untagged spoilers. Shouldn't we go through and clean this up?

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WillBGood Since: Jan, 2011
May 19th 2020 at 12:11:32 PM •••

I'd be willing to do this if no one objects. I was thinking of cleaning up some of the subpages and Dune-related work pages as well, as some of them just seem to have some lazy copying and pasting of tropes.

Correctortron Since: Aug, 2022
Mar 9th 2024 at 6:27:57 AM •••

It’s a real problem since entries don’t distinguish between the Frank and non-Frank stuff, which often contradicts the original books.

Lordforlorn Since: Dec, 2016
Dec 17th 2016 at 11:48:51 AM •••

According to the Dune wiki, the Harkonnens are probably of Finnish origin, not Russian:

"The Harkonnen name was believed to originate in what was northern Europe on ancient Earth, and the region of Earth called Suomi, also Finland. It has been suggested that the Harkonnen name comes from Sweden as a derivation of Hakkon - but it is likely that it is indeed from Finland, as Härkönen is a 20th-century Finnish name. Moreover, the family name Härkönen is derived from the Finnish word härkä which means ox — the icon of Harkonnen."

It does not seem to matter much, as this is not really mentioned in the books (as far as I remember), but I felt it worth mentioning.

DynamicDragon Since: Oct, 2011
Steam_Lord Since: Dec, 2013
Apr 5th 2015 at 1:31:25 PM •••

It seems so, so now there are several nearly identical pages.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 5th 2015 at 1:36:43 PM •••

Yeah, it's a franchise, but whether it qualifies for the namespace Franchise/ I dunno.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CaptainCrawdad Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 27th 2014 at 11:13:52 AM •••

Why does the film namespace redirect here? Isn't the point of namespaces to separate different works with the same name?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 27th 2014 at 11:17:26 AM •••

Because nobody has written a page for the films yet, so Film/ was redirected here instead.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
gumby_jd gumby_jd Since: Jan, 2001
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Apr 10th 2013 at 7:51:24 PM •••

"* Deleted Scene: Several scenes were cut from the theatrical release of the 1984 film and later restored to the extended versions, which is part of why they're so much longer. Of these, one of the most significant is the death of Thufir Hawat, a powerful scene in which Paul separates Thufir from the captured Harkonnen and offers him his life, only for Thufir to commit suicide rather than kill Paul. This omission creates something of a What Happened to the Mouse? moment in the original cut, as Thufir—one of the film's more important characters—can clearly be seen standing among the prisoners (between the Emperor and Gaius Mohiam) in one shot, and simply vanishes in the next; his disappearance is never explained."

Hmm. Strange. I clearly remember that scene (unlike much of the rest of the movie, which I tried to repress after reading the novel - which I bought at a drug store across from the theatre as I left the movie) from its theatrical release in 1984. Perhaps there were regional variations? Different cuts for different markets are not unheard of, after all.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks to the article, I've started reading the novel again - the exact same copy I bought upon leaving the movie back in '84, actually. 29 years isn't bad for a paperback that's been read every year or so. :)

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