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Njein Since: Apr, 2016
Oct 15th 2017 at 7:41:34 AM •••

Would the He Who Fights Monsters and Protagonist Journey To Villain tropes be appropriate here for Hans?

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DuelMark Since: Mar, 2011
Nov 4th 2017 at 8:23:40 PM •••

Well, not the former, since he's not fighting an oppressive dictator or anyone like his father or brothers. The latter, maybe?

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bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
Jan 21st 2020 at 5:52:44 PM •••

I think the latter would fit here. It might be a downplayed version, since the trope page description seems to focus on characters who start off heroic, which might not apply to Hans exactly, but I think he starts off moral enough that Tropes Are Flexible can safely apply.

Servitor_2152 Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 21st 2020 at 10:59:21 AM •••

Is there such a thing as critical mass for trope redundancy? I'm fascinated by the concept behind this novel, but it seems like 90% of the trope example text on this page is some variation on "this novel tells the story of Frozen from Han's perspective, shows that his character flaws are in part due to his horrible upbringing, and plays his ultimate fate in the movie for tragedy." Reading the same thing over and over again turns into a bit of a slog after a while.

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bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
Jan 21st 2020 at 5:49:07 PM •••

There doesn't seem to be specifically so. I think most works long enough to have this many tropes have enough tropes with different themes to make the lists more balanced. This book does have those, but since Anna's side follows the original movie pretty closely, most of the new stuff is about Hans's expanded backstory, so most of the tropes people think to add are directly related to that part. That makes the example list more repetitive than the ones on most work pages, because there are tropes that show up throughout the novel being listed, but they're pretty much all related to one character's expanded backstory.

It might help to move the character tropes to the character pages, or maybe add more tropes about the Anna-Hans relationship or maybe Anna's parents to keep make the list more varied.

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