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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
Jul 14th 2020 at 8:41:42 AM •••

The "Perp Sweating" entry was made public and fleshed out minimally. Problems with it, though:

-it may not be a good example of this, depending very much on how and where the grilling is accomplished.

-it's a ZCE. Needs far more detailed information on how the concept is performed in the example. Also needs specific examples from specific episodes.

I have re-suppressed the entry. Link to the Trope Talk Forum thread:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15946634170A23882400&page=1#5

Would like to discuss before (or if) it's put back up again. Thanks!

Edited by BoltDMC
BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
Jun 14th 2020 at 3:20:32 PM •••

Incorruptable Pure Pureness does *not* apply to "Our heroes." I've done a double-% on this bullet point — see the revised comment. Mason in fact often skirts the law or legal ethics by committing breaking and entering to search for clues, hiding witnesses, and creating confusing situations to help his clients — especially in early episodes.

Have also done a double-% on Springtime for Hitler. I don't see how this applies. Please provide an example if reinstating.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Aug 20th 2018 at 10:50:19 AM •••

Shouldn't this be moved to Literature.Perry Mason since we only have works in one other namespace (Film/)?

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The_Nemesis Since: Aug, 2016
Oct 10th 2017 at 7:16:43 PM •••

It doesn't really bear discussion, but I wanted to grant greater explanation for why I deleted the entry for Wacky Americans Have Wacky Names.

That trope is a) largely a comedy trope and b) meant to be shorthand for the character's "american-ness" in whatever capacity the work is intending.

The somewhat unusual (to modern viewers) names that many Perry Mason characters have, such as the cited-in-the-trope-listing ones like Hamilton Burger or Mauvis Meade fail to qualify on both counts because a) Perry Mason is a drama series and the names are played straight, not for laughs.and b) the intent of the names is not to focus on some aspect of innate american nature.

Instead the unusual names are meant to be emblematic of the number of involved parties with Perry's cases that are high society or old money and would be the types to have stuffy, out-of-touch names that signify their disconnect with modern society. And of course some of the names are simply artifacts of the 50s and 60s when the show was set and aired that will seem odd to modern viewers.

DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
Aug 23rd 2012 at 9:03:15 PM •••

I've been watching a few episodes of Season 2 on Me TV and, given quite a few EnemyMines and Lt. Tragg joining in on The Summation and the "Everybody Laughs" Ending a few times (and Mr. Burger once), I'm more inclined to consider them Lestrades as opposed to Javerts.

EDIT: In fact, Inspector Javert and Friend on the Force are incompatible Tropes unless employed by different writers or on different characters. But there's no contect to either entry. Change NOW!!!

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Tarlonniel Since: Apr, 2012
Aug 24th 2012 at 9:39:27 AM •••

They waver between the two tropes over the course of the series - consistent characterization was not a high priority - but for the most part I agree that they fall into Lestrade rather than Javert territory.

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