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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 18th 2021 at 3:55:33 AM •••

Removed from main page, as there is a cleanup effort on ZeroesAndOnes underway and I am not sure what to do with this entry:

  • Zeroes And Ones: Bit, who can only say "yes" and "no". He also has a "neutral" state, corresponding to the high-impedance state of a tristate electronic output.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheLyniezian Is not actually from Lyniezia Since: Aug, 2012
Is not actually from Lyniezia
Nov 24th 2013 at 4:29:54 PM •••

Interesting that someone changed my suggestion from Encom being an Expy of Apple to being of Hewlett-Packard. I would imagine this makes more sense as HP by then was the more established company (founded in 1939) which presumably would explain why Walter Gibbs (the founder and guy who's working on the laser experiment) is an older man than Steve Wozniak would have been.

However, I think I'm taking it out of the 20 Minutes into the Future example as the change makes it no longer relevant for this reason.

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TheLyniezian Is not actually from Lyniezia Since: Aug, 2012
Is not actually from Lyniezia
Oct 4th 2013 at 5:19:17 PM •••

Not sure whether to move the Threesome Subtext examples to YMMV, since the author of he same seems to be reading a little too much into the narrative. Most of that can be explained by Flynn being a very irreverant character who doesn't care much for social niceties and still fancies his chances with Lora (definite tension between rivals there, surely...)

The second part mentions homoeroticism which (it seems to me) pretty much no-one who wasn't gay and with an over-active imagination could possibly think up, and the power source being likened to drugs is very much Unfortunate Implications at best. [EDIT: hmm, OK, maybe not- the the allusions for this part seem pretty intentional.] Given what the MCP was doing to the programs, it's probably more analogous to feeding them starvation rations of stale food and water of questionable purity, and gaining sudden access to an abundance of good stuff would probably produce the same reaction.

Anyone agree or disagree?

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TheLyniezian Since: Aug, 2012
Oct 5th 2013 at 7:02:40 AM •••

Decided to move it anyway. Original text is below in case anyone sees things differently.

  • Threesome Subtext: Has to set a minor record, despite being a Disney flick.
    • First, Alan and Lora show up at Flynn's arcade. Flynn acts a little overly familiar to them both (even though Lora's his ex), snarking that "nothing classes up the joint like a clean-cut young couple." Once they're upstairs, he casually changes his shirt in front of them, remarks Lora isn't one for small talk, and asks Alan if she still leaves clothing on the floor. The end of the scene is Lora brandishing a set of car keys and asking, "Shall we dance?".
    • Once Flynn's in cyberspace, there's buckets of subtext when he allies himself with Ram and Tron. The scene at the Power Pool? Three pretty men in skintight, neon-lit spandex gasping and giggling over how good power from a "pure source" is.
    • And after Ram dies and Flynn's found Tron and Yori? Well, see the arcade scene above. Tron and Yori are doppelgangers of Alan and Lora and in an established relationship already. Doesn't slow down any of the subtext from earlier, nor does it stop Flynn from giving Yori a very passionate Last Kiss before making what he believes to be a Heroic Sacrifice to save them all.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
Apr 1st 2013 at 7:04:23 PM •••

A request to people who've seen this film: can someone update the entry for TRON for Super Weight? It's a Just for Fun homegrown ranking at TV Tropes of measuring characters' relative power in a story, divided into nine broad categories. The entry according to the old criteria was this (and can be found on the medium subpage's discussion page):

  • TRON (original)
    • Type -1: Random guard programs
    • Type 0: Crom, Yori, Dumont
    • Type 1: Ram
    • Type 2: Tron, Sark
    • Type 3: Flynn

There's also an entry for TRON: Legacy that needs to be updated.

Edited by Morgenthaler You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
alcockell Since: Apr, 2009
Sep 2nd 2011 at 5:32:31 PM •••

Tron was also written in the time of computer bureaux - so one thing Encom would have been doing is renting out CPU and process time.

Maybe add to the Megacorp line?>

berr Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 27th 2010 at 10:39:49 PM •••

Given how different the new movie is likely to be from the original, in terms of being a literal in-story ReBoot,

Don't you think Tron Legacy might warrant its own page? (I know, it's technically in continuity with the original, but only the real world part)

For comparison, Film.Batman and the Dark Knight Trilogy have separate pages.

Also for comparison, Tron Legacy is shaping to be more different from Tron and Tron 2.0 in terms of graphics and storytelling focus than the latter two are from each other... indeed, according to the page, Disney has said that Tron 2.0 does not exist in Tron Legacy continuity.

Otherwise you'll be looking at the original film being displaced from its own page in terms of preponderance of content, or conversely they'd have to go hunting for the new film on the page, and making Justifying Edits to tropes specific to the original work only, given the huge numbers the sequel is likely to do among folks who've never seen the original.

Tron Evolution could be paired with Tron Legacy if it got its own page. Otherwise that's a fourth internal split.

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AussieEvil Dignity. Ease. Disease. Since: Sep, 2009
Dignity. Ease. Disease.
Jun 18th 2010 at 9:08:30 AM •••

I feel that this article should be split into two sections: the movies and Tron 2.0.

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Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
152.83.195.30 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 29th 2010 at 10:12:16 PM •••

And there's a new game, Tron Evolution, coming out with the new movie...

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