Grin and tonic
I would say that this film is an example of Pyrrhic Victory, yes they won, but civilisation is nearly destroyed in the process and they nuked an american city.
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The Narrator
I was unable to create a troper's tale section, where I believe this should belong, so I will place it here. The Wal Mart in Roswell, New Mexico plays Independence Day every day on a television set in front of the cash registers.
I will laugh when you are in trouble! When they cry for help, I will not answer. -Jesus rebuttal to fools found in proverbs 1:26-28?
Evil Space Lizard
I removed the long bit at the start about how despite all the plot holes it's actually good. If you remove negative statements, how could you possibly keep positive ones? Both are forcing your opinion on readers of the article.
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Tear Jerker is a YMMV trope now? But it was obvious the studio intended for the "Mommy's sleeping" scene to be sad and tug at the heartstrings. Whether the viewers got choked up might be YMMV, but that's definitely what the scene was going for.
We don't have to be mean. Remember - no matter where you go, there you are. —Buckaroo Banzai
Evil Space Lizard
The redirect ID 4 was cut as a initialism. However, official initialisms are allowed and ID 4 was officially used on posters such as this Brazilian one
and this one
◊; so it shouldn't have been cut.
Hey guys, just wondering if I could get some backround on this:
Bury Your Gays: The only gay character, played by Harvey Fierstein, is quickly killed off.
I don't remember who this was or what happened. Was this Will Smith's friend who died? I haven't seen this whole movie in a while...
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Harvey Fierstein was David's boss at the cable company in the early parts of the film. You'll remember him as a gravely voiced chubby guy, constantly yelling "David!"
BTW, give the guy a break. He may have killed the gay, but the world was saved by Jews and blacks. That's got to count for something!
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- This is brought up in the sequel, Independence Day: Resurgence - there were alien survivors, and some of them managed to survive long enough to call for backup.
- Fitting, as Brazil started to rise to great market prominence and prestige in aviation and aerospace industries in the late '80s, and has pretty-much gained market-supremacy in regional commercial airliner sales.
- That's from their misunderstanding of and disdain for his job (and possibly due to David thinking they wouldn't understand the true technical details). David is most likely Network Operations or something even more technical, and a literal rocket scientist, who can control the satellites that bring in the signal for cable television.
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