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TrollBrutal Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 17th 2013 at 12:39:00 PM •••

  • Translation Convention: One possible reason for the scenes in which the terrorists talk to each other in English, despite other scenes in which they are heard talking in German (and the obvious benefit in talking to each other in German whenever possible).
    • Though no explanation as to why the German terrorist doesn't understand when Hans tells him to "schieß dem Fenster," until he repeats it in English. Or even why he repeats it in English.
      • It´s terrible German. The confused look he gets in return can be hilariously captioned with "It´s 'Schieß auf das Fenster,' Idiot!" which is done here.
    • If this is when Hans tells Karl to shoot the glass it could be because Karl doesn't understand the order...why waste bullets on glass when they can shoot him dead? If so this is a Call-Back to Hans' plan to have John neutralized, as if the glass cripples him he would no longer be a threat, presumably.
    • There are a number of hints in the film that Hans is not actually German and his use of the language and nationality is a put-on. This is completely undone by the third movie, though.
      • We've already seen that the team's hacker is not German, so perhaps the entire team is multinational and don't all speak German.

Some interesting stuff there but Conversation In The Main Page and Examples Are Not Arguable in the first place ="One possible reason"

3333333 Since: Sep, 2011
Jan 17th 2012 at 11:51:26 PM •••

I am astonished that there is no Oh, Crap! Trope on this page, since pretty much every dangerous situation John or other characters experience this moment at least once. Like the scene where John underestimated how much C4 he used. That being said there should also be a trope as sort of a branch of that trope. SPOILER ALERT The reason being, is that there is a scene where Hans Gruber and John Mc Clane finally meet each other. It starts out when Hans is checking on the C4 rigged to blow the roof. He jumps off the platform, only to find a sub-machine gun pointed to his face and its not held by one of his men. That's Oh Crap number one. The shooter just so happens to be John himself and confirms this, by saying hi in the voice that matches the one he heard on the radio. That's Oh Crap number 2. With Quick thinking, Hans uses his fake American Accent which seems to fool John. John apparently trusts him enough to hand him his own gun. When he turns around he hears Hans speak to his radio in german. That's Oh Crap number one for John. Hans tries to shoot, John but can't because he took the bullets out. That's Oh Crap number 3 for Hans. Whereas his henchman show up which makes it Oh Crap number 2 for John.

Should this be an Oh Crap scoreboard or some kind of trope like that?

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Jan 18th 2012 at 6:45:01 AM •••

You can edit it onto the page yourself, you know.

KrisDK Since: Jun, 2011
Nov 18th 2011 at 1:40:49 PM •••

I'm not sure which trope to use in this case, but surely Zeus from With A Vengeance would fit into one racism trope.

SalvyMic Taking a level in badass Since: Dec, 2009
Taking a level in badass
Jul 16th 2011 at 3:31:51 AM •••

Would anyone be on board with creating WMG page for the series? I say this knowing it seems there's a Die Hard 5 on the horizon.

upupandaway42 Since: Apr, 2009
Dec 18th 2010 at 9:47:50 AM •••

Anyone else think each Die Hard film should get its own page? Just having the one for all four films - each one fairly Troperiffic on its own - means the current page is kinda long.

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SalvyMic Since: Dec, 2009
Jul 16th 2011 at 3:29:59 AM •••

I wouldn't be opposed to it, plus we can discuss each movie more in depth.

alcockell Since: Apr, 2009
Jul 31st 2010 at 3:19:48 AM •••

Such a shame that a datacentre had to die. Was that old DEC kit that got destroyed in the big firefight at 1hr 33 mins?

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