Discussion Film / Deadpool2

Likely not. I believe filming would have wrapped before it broke. At any rate, if you need to ask if it's a reference, there's a good probability that it's not.

Alternate History is a massive no-go. The series has diverged from history by merit of taking place in a universe pretty wildly different from ours, what with mutants being well-known to the public for decades and all.

Author Existence Failure seems fine, though I'd play up that it's a gag in a stinger and hinges on DP's third-wall breaking tendencies.

Author Existence Failure is Trivia, though I suppose you can have an in-universe version. However the big problem is that it's entirely a one-off gag that has no impact on anything. We don't see anything in-universe that's disrupted by Movie!Ryan's death.

Maybe if it becomes a joke that "Ryan Reynolds was going to do this until his unsolved murder in 2011." However so long as it's a stand-alone joke I vote an emphatic "NO."

Your logic is utterly lost to me. Sure, it's a stand-alone joke but... it's still part of the movie. It's there. If you don't think the example fits Author Existence Failure, that would be one thing and we could discuss but "it doesn't exist" is nonsense. Lots of things "didn't have an impact on anything." This was, pretty much, a Random Events Plot. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.

In this case it very much does matter that it's a stand-alone joke, because the trope is dependent on a creator dying in the middle of unfinished works:

Also note that since all creators are mortal, this is not merely when creators die, it's when they die with works still in progress.

The implication of the gag is that Wade killed Reynolds before production on Green Lantern even began, so you can't even say it was a work in progress, and no other works are mentioned In-Universe.

Okay, that's a completely different argument, then.

So then What Could Have Been since it's clear that Ryan Reynolds was killed before filming?

I would still say no. Again, this is Trivia, and the fact that it's a single joke tagged on to the very end of the film during the credits.

Except it would be In-Universe, which can go on a main page.

You won me by pointing out it didn't fit Author Existence Failure, but claiming it doesn't count is silly.

And no where in-universe is it even asked What Could Have Been. Nothing we see in the film takes it further than a one-off gag.

Also:

This is when directors or writers release details about plots, characters, back stories, or other elements they thought about adding to the story at one point but ultimately never did.

So once again, it doesn't even apply to the trope.

This entire thing is turning into an exercise of Square Peg Round Trope.

Reynolds is in possession of the Green Lantern script, meaning he's already cast, meaning film production is underway, meaning Author Existence Failure fits since he was killed-off during an already greenlit work. Regardless of the scene being a one-off gag, he was still killed during an already ongoing film production.

Applying Author Existence Failure to what is no more than a meta joke is stretching the trope's definition. Stretching/shoehorning a trope makes it a very arguable example. And since the rule is that Examples Are Not Arguable, we have to veer on the side of caution by not including it.

If it becomes a Brick Joke in a later film that someone wonders what Reynolds might have done had he not been murdered, then I can see allowing it on that work's page. But so long as the only mention of it is in a post-credits gag at the very end of the film, it's a gag that exists entirely in isolation and does not fit the definition of either proposed trope.

For all we know his death could be subject to Negative Continuity and Reynolds will make another As Himself appearance in X-Force or Deadpool 3.

Much more Walking Disaster Area. The destruction isn't directly linked to her actions, but to her mere presence. And "savior" is a stretch considering they're a bunch of anti-heroes.

Well, given the size of his neck I doubt they could find a collar big enough.

But yeah, the X-Men/''Deadpool" movies tend to call "Mutant" anyone with superpowers, so it can be ambiguous. On the other hand, he is stated as being Xavier's brother, and thus would be from a family with the X-gene.

He's apways been Xavier's brother, plus DP mentions seve r al comics, plus if he really was a mutant they probably would have made an ankle bracelet version for the big guy.

I think it's implied he is a mutant based on the fact that he's in the prison in the first place and there's no mention to the gem of Cyttorak.

Devil's Advocate - they also never say that he is a mutant, and IIRC he's never shown wearing one of the mutant-suppressor collars, instead having his own specially-designed containment.

Let's just go the way of Avengers: Infinity War, admit there are too many spoilers to be all covered, put a banner on top and call it a day.

I believe policy is to wait until it's had the US release, so Friday. Hang in there bud!

Thanks for that. I'll keep this in mind.

Well, too late. Someone's already gone and added spoilers - some unmarked - everywhere. Which blows because I haven't seen the film yet and am trying to avoid them as much as possible.