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Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Jul 19th 2022 at 10:40:50 AM •••

Should there be a separate page for Symbol of Truth/Sentinel of Liberty? Or should there be two?

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GateStarX Since: Sep, 2012
Jul 19th 2022 at 12:16:25 PM •••

Ideally yes. Also I’m not sure how split the two series are from each other. It could be a house and powers of x situation.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Jul 18th 2021 at 1:29:51 PM •••

Okay, I deleted the parts of the Captain America article referencing How It Should Have Ended because I believe they are unnecessary and often kind of insulting towards the greater history of Captain America. Look, just because other pages have references to parodies doesn't mean this particular page should have references to a parody, especially since this particular parody is not of the affectionate kind. Oftentimes, the How It Should Have Ended parodies come off as "I can do a much better job than people getting legally paid to do this stuff", and I think that comes off as disrespectful towards the official creators. I think that, for now at least, we should stick to the official materials.

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troperbb Since: Dec, 2018
Jul 18th 2021 at 3:44:39 PM •••

Look, obviously you have issues with parodies. They where made for fun, not to be insulting (except for Jar Jar Binks. They kill him off every chance they get). I am just saying that if you want this to be “comics only” then get rid of the Theme Song since that is a tv series and not related to the comics. If it came as disrespectful, then wouldn’t Disney or Marvel sued HISHE by now?

Troperbb.
Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Jul 18th 2021 at 4:08:16 PM •••

You can list it on the page under a parody trope.

troperbb Since: Dec, 2018
Jul 19th 2021 at 9:46:53 AM •••

But can’t I have a reference to it in the page quote? Only have the song go until “all those who oppose his sheild must yeild” and then have the reference like it was before?

Troperbb.
troperbb Since: Dec, 2018
Jul 26th 2021 at 4:51:46 PM •••

Obviously you hate How It Should Have Ended. That is not a good excuse to delete it. It was there before and no one had issue with it.

Troperbb.
MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Zarim Black Lodge Spirit Since: May, 2009
Black Lodge Spirit
Feb 25th 2017 at 8:32:13 PM •••

There's some pretty loaded language under the YMMV tab ("SJW", "lunatic left", etc. etc.). I'm not sure if that's against Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment but it sure seems like it would be, as the language is intentionally inflammatory.

I am the arm.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 9th 2013 at 6:36:18 AM •••

The Messiah is no longer a trope. Is there a better trope for this?

  • The Messiah: His eventual return after his second death becomes the turning point in Dark Reign, as he becomes the point the heroes rally behind to defeat Norman Osborn.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 19th 2010 at 10:43:05 AM •••

Not going to change the caption for the picture, but I just want to say I was really tempted to change it to, "America. Fuck yeah."

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ChaosWolf Since: Jan, 2011
Sep 14th 2011 at 1:25:59 AM •••

You mean "Captain America, Fuck Yeah!" Except Cap would probably be disappointed in us for using such bad language, and frankly, having Captain America be disappointed in you is probably, like, the worst feeling in the history of everything.

HarrisTheDragon Since: Sep, 2012
Feb 14th 2011 at 10:10:45 AM •••

I just removed a lot of needling aimed at Ultimate Cap. I know he's a big divider, but can we keep the fanwank out of the wiki?

Kalaong Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 23rd 2010 at 10:34:07 AM •••

Has anyone ever added Deliberate Values Dissonance / Playing with a Trope? Cap is 100%^ a product of his time in his attitude towards women and such, but channels those attitudes through his Incorruptible Pure Pureness; He is America - the America that fights monsters and protects the innocent and accepts everyone. It's always kinda awesome when he goes up to a hawk or a bigot and says Shut Up, Hannibal!.

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62.25.109.195 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 23rd 2010 at 4:28:03 AM •••

Removed section on the shipping of Captain America/Iron Man being more prominent than Captain America/Falcon or Iron Man/War Machine despite more canon moments of intimacy, and attributing this to 'looks'.

First, all three pairings have a multitude of such moments, and saying any one pairing has more is subjective.

Second, while there's certainly a place for pointing out that slashiness between white men is often appreciated more than between black men, or a white man and a black man, I don't think the Captain America page is that place. Perhaps it deserves its own trope, which could then be listed on this page? It's common in Psych fandom, and Stargate: Atlantis. Out of the realm of slash, it was an issue in Star Trek reboot fandom with Spock/Uhura.

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D1Puck1T Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 23rd 2010 at 5:19:18 PM •••

It's more a case of "Unfortunate Implications" than anything else, I readily concede. But I do think it's worth mentioning, especially in light of the large number of people shipping Tony/Steve and the extremely small number of people shipping Falcon/Steve despite the comic being a buddy book titled "Captain America and the Falcon" for many years.

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