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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Dec 23rd 2017 at 3:45:39 AM •••

  • Informed Ability: He's supposed to be the best at his year with Defense of Dark Arts and considered a prodigy by adults (and by Dumbledore). In actual fact, he loses the only real duel in the series he has with a competent wizard, Severus Snape, in Book 6 in a hilariously one-sided match, enjoys the advantage ball of Voldemort telling his mooks to spare him so that only he can defeat him, and moreover wins against Voldemort by Applied Phlebotinum and Loophole Abuse of Suddenly Significant Rule involving wandlore (Priori Incantatem and Elder Wand hijinks). He fails to learn an advanced magic like Occlumency only for Dumbledore to decide that he can get by with The Power of Love instead. Even his good turn in Book 4 in the Triwizard Tournament is ruined by the fact that the entire event is rigged so that he could win and enter Voldemort's clutches.
Yeah, well, here's a thing: Tom is the second biggest badass in the series, so not being able to beat him on his own does NOT in itself a question to Harry's badassery. Snape was Harry's teacher, it's no suprised that he's better than he is. What author of this entry seems to ignore is that Harry is the best IN HIS YEAR. Which means he's best when compared to people from he's class, and this entry says he's not by comparing him to adults who were gaining combat experience when he was shitting in diapers. It's true that he had trouble with Oclumency, but it was pretty much outright stated that it was the teacher who was the problem, as Albus claims it was mistake that he wasn't teaching him himself. Harry eventually mastered oclumency anyways. As for him being compared to his classmates, the simple fact that he TAUGHT them half of what they knew about wizarding combat should say enough. He also has some legitimate badassery moments, as during Death eater infiltration when he took out several death eaters before facing Snape (not really a duels but he did take them out). In other words he's abilities were shown and not informed.

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Hvedekorn (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:34:57 AM •••

I agree with your sentiments. There's also the fact that he learned to do a basic Patronus - which is said to be a very difficult spell - after only a few tries, and managed to make a corporeal Patronus only a few months later, while facing a horde of Dementors. Many of the seventh years in OOTP couldn't even do that before Harry taught them.

If Harry had been stated to be on the same level as some of the combat-hardened adult wizards, it would be an informed ability. But he was only ever stated to be the best in his year, and I believe there's plenty of evidence for that.

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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Mar 8th 2017 at 4:20:58 PM •••

  • Thou Shalt Not Kill: When your parents were killed by a spell when you were a year old, you kinda don't want to use that spell. He even uses the other Unforgivable Curses, but can never bring himself to kill.
I don't think Harry is an example. The only time he actually plays this trope is when he refuses to let Sirius and Remus kill Peter, but that's because he doesn't want them to be killers. Earlier he actually wanted to kill Sirius but couldn't bring himself to do it. The two times he actually refuses to kill were:
  • Disarming Stan, which he had done specifically because he's Stan. Stunning him would've thrown him of the broom, but he did use stunners in the same fight before, meaning he wasn't against the idea of killing death eaters, only innocents.
  • Not killing death eaters in the cafeteria, which was a case of Moral Pragmatism rather than any principles.
Overall he never actually killed, but he's not exacly opposed to idea himself.

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