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SereneSpecter13 F1 the robot (Troper Knight)
F1 the robot
Feb 10th 2019 at 1:01:53 AM •••

Personally, I don't think D.W. or the Tibbles qualify as Jerks With A Heart Of Gold. Yes, they both do have a few Pet the Dog moments, but the trope page for JWAHO Fs explicitly states that a character must either have a lot of them or, if not, then the ones they do have must be powerful enough to balance out the character's Jerkass side, neither of which seem to apply to them in my eyes. What do the rest of you think? Should the trope be removed from their entries on this page?

Edited by SereneSpecter13 On a semi-hiatus from this site due to being busy with other things (may contribute here and there, but nothing major).
PDL (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 26th 2018 at 2:34:00 PM •••

Okay then, I'm kind of getting tired of tyrekecorrea deleting random things. How exactly is Buster being fond of food and aliens or Muffy being rich negative qualities? What kind of descriptions do you actually want for these characters?

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tyrekecorrea Since: Jun, 2009
Apr 26th 2018 at 2:57:16 PM •••

In cases where certain characteristics aren't detailed outright, examples which are already given amply provide for readers to infer things about various characters for themselves.

It's not serviceable to treat readers like morons, and I'm not down with it.

People are more than their most conspicuous issues; let people view them as part of the complete package of who they are. That's what this show's about.

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PDL (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 26th 2018 at 3:12:58 PM •••

It's not about treating the readers like morons though. It's merely brief description which describes the character to someone who hasn't watched the show before.

Frankly, I'm not a fan of laconic descriptions. Buster's for example is an extremely poor one as his parents being divorced is at best a minor part of his character. Why should that be there in the first place?

tyrekecorrea Since: Jun, 2009
Apr 26th 2018 at 3:33:04 PM •••

Beau and Bitzi's divorce has a big impact on his life and how he lives it, and it's the same for loads of kids with divorced and even single parents. The quirky rituals Buster and Bitzi share, all the time Buster spends with Arthur, etc., at least partly stem from the divorce. Mentioning it concisely explains a great deal.

You don't expect me to elaborate on or justify these things as they relate to every character, do you?

tyrekecorrea Miss, not ma'am Since: Jun, 2009
Miss, not ma'am
Apr 26th 2018 at 3:03:58 PM •••

The reason why I mentioned Carl's diagnosis and linked to the Useful Notes page is because it didn't make sense to use a large swath of space to explain the characteristics connected to Carl's diagnosis when the Useful Notes page already does so, and frankly, I didn't want to have to refer to his diagnosis every time I mention a trope connected to it.

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tyrekecorrea Miss, not ma'am Since: Jun, 2009
Miss, not ma'am
Oct 30th 2017 at 6:36:12 PM •••

Might it be intentional that a character who enjoys stereotypically feminine pursuits is allergic to peanuts?

tyrekecorrea Miss, not ma'am Since: Jun, 2009
Miss, not ma'am
Sep 25th 2016 at 8:05:56 PM •••

I'm not sure whether to put Carl down as Inspirationally Disadvantaged or not. The show is usually pretty good about avoiding this, but an upcoming episode seems to be setting up Carl's attention to detail and photographic memory to save the day, which would qualify him for type B of the trope. What ultimately comes of it depends upon how the events of the episode itself play out. Maybe Carl is just sitting on the couch while the others are fussing over something. It's happened before. Please keep an eye on this.

Aiguille Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 29th 2012 at 7:13:30 PM •••

Deleted Blue Eyes for "Binky" Barnes and George Lundgren, On its disambiguation page, Blue Eyes has been split into six tropes. Please replace with one of those only if applicable. (i.e it fits the symbolism as well as the color)

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 21st 2011 at 1:39:41 AM •••

As written this isn't an example. The trope doesn't entail great inventive powers, rather this is any "nerdy" character who is also an extrovert.

Alan "The Brain" Powers'

  • Extroverted Nerd: He occasionally creates things that wouldn't be possible in real life.

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