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Maybe just my opinion, but I think the entry here on Fallout is way too melodramatic. An argument could absolutely be made that it’s in a bad era, but the one we have is pretty one sided.

Acting like Fallout 3 hate is anywhere near common is just straight up untrue. Modern Fallout as we know it wouldn’t exist without it, and certainly not New Vegas. It got “Universal acclaim” according to metacritic, a 9.6 from IGN, 91% from P Cgamer, it won game of the year, I could go on… in retrospect, it definitely has its issues, but people who think it as genuinely bad are relegated to the most die-hard interplay and obsidian fanboys.

In a similar vein, FNV’s history has kinda been whitewashed. Sure, it’s widely praised now, but many forget the glaring problems it had, especially at launch, where the game was damn near unplayable.

The bashing of Fallout 4 pushed this over the edge for me. Again, don’t get me wrong, many people have and will criticise it, and rightly so, but are we really pretending it’s fuckin unanimous, like it wasn’t equally as critically acclaimed as NV and 3, and not to mention, by far the most popular game in the franchise? Much less that this huge failure was some inevitability of the Bethesda model.

Yeah I’m not gonna defend 76, that one was pretty shit, although I would stress it has a decent community having been patched in the last few years, and the fact that Bethesda’s actual dev team barely had fuck all to do with it.

This probably comes off like I’m a Bethesda fanboy or something, but Idk, it just doesn’t sit right with me that this whole idea that the whole franchise is doomed because of one minor disappointment (once more, mostly according to Obsidian fanboys) and one shitshow by the parent company when in reality it’s one the best known and received franchises on the planet, is so popular. Forgive the essay

Anyway, $4 a pound.

Edited by Jack995

So, now that the page has been renamed to something "less offensive"... can we add the Wii U/3DS era back for Mario? At least the mainline platformers. Because arguably the series started to see some sort of decline, right down to 3D World selling worse than Sunshine, as the series was more or less somewhat overshadowed by Nintendo's other I Ps like Pokemon and Fire Emblem, and just their general competition/more violent games in general during that time.

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Complaining, started by harryhenry on Aug 9th 2014 at 8:26:51 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

"Some gaming experts also believe that the E3 had a dork age in 1996, if only because the best-selling video game of that year was not featured on the E3 floor at all."

So, this was weird to come across. Apparently added in 2015, by hydrix, and edited several times without anyone noticing that it was absurd. I'm no gaming historian, but at least half a dozen games came out that year which sold more. The biggest might be Pokemon Red and Green at 9 point something million sold that year, which wouldn't have been at that E3 since it wasn't released in North America until 1998, but I'm not inclined to dig enough to confirm that, and there's no sourcing for E3 1996 being a dork age anyway, so the point is moot. DKC 3 sold 3 point something million copies, by the way. Very good, but definitely not the most that year.

Edited by Occidensill

I'm not the only one who thinks Konami as a wholee should be on this page, should I? After all, if the the anime and manga page can make an argument that the whole medium went through one, then a single company as a whole going through one should at least be written on here.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 Watch Symphogear Hide / Show Replies

So Nintendo gets its own Dork Age entry, but other companies (such as Capcom) get deleted for being "company- and industry-bashing examples"?