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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 18th 2019 at 11:41:09 AM •••

So, pulled this for discussion:

  • Grey-and-Gray Morality: Hoo BOY. Well one of the reasons for the series rather complex morality is there are no real continued factions that last the entire show. The Gundams unlike other series are not connected to any governing body or a group. They are simply all guerrilla soldiers who at first aren't even technically on the same side. As such their enemies change from OZ to Romefeller and then finally the White Fang. As such the war is more between individuals who have their own points and faults. At times, it's very easy to view the series from the perspective that the Gundam pilots themselves are the real evil.
    • Of particular note is Wufei's actions against Victoria Base in episode 4, where he targets the barracks before destroying their mobile suits.

Now, the last bit needs to be chopped for being natter, but this reads like an audience reaction.

But does the work itself ever actually make the Gundam Team as not the good guys? Their methods are straight up terrorism, but the work still treats them as being morally superior to their enemies. They're never portrayed as "oh gee, maybe OZ isn't so bad" and the Gundam pilots themselves are never portrayed as not acting for the greater good.

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SnakeDoctor Since: Apr, 2014
Apr 30th 2014 at 12:19:41 AM •••

The main page examples list had this:


  • Cast Full of Pretty Boys: How it managed to be called this despite the fact that it literally assigned one female character to each male is weird
    • Slightly justified in the case of Trowa and Quatre, since Catherine "Cathy" Bloom can be easily seen as Trowa's Cool Big Sis and Dorothy not only is introduced quite later, but shows more "interest" in people like Relena, Treize and/or Zechs, rather than Quatre himself. Though Quatre and Dorothy do seem to have some sort of bizarre telepathic link in the final battle... which almost everyone has, to some degree.
    • Also, Dorothy does try to kill him.
    • In the Episode Zero manga, Trowa is implied to be Cathy's long lost brother Triton, so...
    • When Catherine finds Trowa after he loses his memories, she doesn't say she's his girlfriend or even a close acquaintance - she tells him she's his sister. If she'd wanted a romantic relationship... after that, she'd have some explaining to do.

First line has personal-voice commentary and adds nothing to the description of the Cast Full of Pretty Boys. Next bullet "slightly justifies" the trope by pointing out the existence of characters that don't like the main cast — but the existence of these characters doesn't justify the trope at all. Justifying this trope would be explaining why they're all pretty (e.g. the pilots were chosen from a database of young models). Anyway, from there it gets more and more tangential, and the whole thing is swiss cheese from gratuitous spoiler markup.

I changed the entry (and my example text could use some love). I'm leaving this here in case anyone wants to salvage it for other tropes, or maybe I'm way off base in not seeing how all of that made sense.

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