Discussion Administrivia / RepairDontRespond

Huh? It still is.

There's being informal, and then there's making an article seem as though it is talking to itself. That's the point of the phrase "Repair, don't respond".

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Speaking as a Wiki Curator, yes. I've seen this rule get ignored a lot.

Please do not ignore this rule.

Shouldn't those who ignore this rule time and time again be sanctioned with edit bans? OFC, this also means that we need to report them to Ask The Tropers.

No, not unless they've already been warned about it personally and are deliberately going against it. Most are just casual editors. This is partially to be used as a cleanup message, as a quick explanation for the cleanup. Censure of editors that don't follow it should be rare if ever done.

Its getting quite annoying how so many of them think Repair Dont Respond is an imaginary concept though. I'll have to agree with AMNK.

If you see someone ignoring this rule, you should PM them directly rather than report them on Ask The Tropers. Most of the time they just aren't aware of this policy. If they keep ignoring it after you do that, then you should go ahead and report them.

I do send them the Natter PM through the natter-fy button the first time they do that. I was talking about those who ignore those P Ms.

Honestly it gets grating. Honestly, its not that hard to comprehend and it isn't written in invisible swahili.

Well as I've seen in several, and I mean SEVERAL other articles, perhaps Repair Dont Respond doesn't exist after all and if it does, IS written in invisible Swahili.

I suggest we put a Repair Dont Respond reminder in the editing system and not just as a random tip.

What I find grating is the apparent desire of some to turn thing place into Wikipedia.

Besides Troper's Law, what does this have to do with anything?

I'm seriously thinking on reporting SSJM's comment.

You seriously need to chill, AMNK. This is a discussion page, and opinions are fine so long as they don't get crude or personal. I created this page, but I too seriously worry about the Wiki succumbing to rules lawyers and Serious Business- certainly, they hold more sway now than they used to. There's too much pessimism and power structure doing groupthink right now. Some people hit Tropers Law when saying so like SSJ, but that doesn't make their concern rude or less valid.

To the conversation in general, most of the wiki was written before this principle (and to a lesser extent, the other notes that got folded into it), and a lot of people have habits from that time or pages have artifacts that remain until someone does some cleanup.

I understand that coming across cruft or seeing it created can be frustrating, but please keep in mind that those who make it aren't trying to screw up the wiki, they're trying to help it- and they are, because casual editors are how most examples are added, they just also make more mistakes too. They need guidance, not scolding or resentment, and not. We who curate and to the shelving should not close the library or start hounding every patron just because books keep being left out.

Well, I might have been a bit rude, but that's because it isn't fun to enter only to fix other's mistakes and "errors on purpose" because they can't be bothered to read the rules.

Should we have a "Repair Dont Respond-fy" button like we have a "Natter-fy" button as well? It could help.

The Natterfy can sometimes cover it. As it is, there's a whole thread about turning natterfications into a selection of messages. Here is a sandbox with the ideas; feel free to edit it.

I like ccoa's idea. I say we do it.