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A flat character can also be a static character. The trope only says that flat characters \'\'\'CAN\'\'\' be fleshed out, using hidden depths, not that they always are. But the minute they are fleshed out then they are no longer flat characters, but rounded ones, however Daisuke does not fit the description of a rounded character. By definition a flat character is \
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A flat character can also be a static character. The trope only says that flat characters \\\'\\\'\\\'CAN\\\'\\\'\\\' be fleshed out, using hidden depths, not that they always are. But the minute they are fleshed out then they are no longer flat characters, but rounded ones, however Daisuke does not fit the description of a rounded character. By definition a flat character is \\\"A flat character is one that only has the bare minimum number of characteristics necessary to make them interesting enough to carry off their purpose.\\\" Daisuke by the admition of the creators was never fleshed out, what we saw was all that was there.
\\\'\\\'No. Episode 8 falls right into continuity and the main plot line. How can you even compare it to episode 13, with its significantly-creepier-than-average Lovecraft homage? \\\'\\\'
Actually episode 8 was just a throw-away episode, while 13 was made with the intention of introducing a new storyline (which was dropped due to executive meddling). So yeah it holds more weight than episode 8.
\\\'\\\'Yes, which doesn\\\'t negate a single thing shown about Daisuke\\\'s personality in that scene.\\\'\\\'
However, the personality that was shown was not a hidden depth, nor was it any different from his determinator, and Reckless personality that was shown before hand. Daisuke was outright stated to have a good heart, however, he is stupid, stubborn, doesn\\\'t think he acts, jealous, reckless, and is a bit of a jerk. All that scene was showing was three previously established points of his personality, not a new one.
\\\'\\\'Iori was heavily against working with Ken at first, and held no small amount of distrust and resentment. Miyako was very uncertain. (Even in the episode where Ken seals off Demon to the Dark Ocean, she\\\'s the very last to join the group and grab onto his hands. She certainly didn\\\'t have full trust in him by episode 25.) Takeru and Hikari are more ambiguous, but they take a while to come around as well — for example, Takeru believes early on that Ken has changed, but isn\\\'t completely in favor of him joining the team either. In contrast, Daisuke was unconditionally accepting of Ken. \\\'\\\'
That\\\'s because of how Ken had behaved beforehand, also \\\'\\\'\\\'Ken\\\'\\\'\\\' understood why Iori was behaving that way, and didn\\\'t blame them for it. You need to remember that Daisuke only got to understand Ken because of Dues Ex Machina which wasn\\\'t given to other children. Daisuke didn\\\'t know anything about Ken and didn\\\'t learn anything about him until the other kids did. Yo need to remember that \\\'\\\'\\\'None\\\'\\\'\\\' of the new kids (even Daisuke) knew anything about Ken beforehand.
\\\'\\\'Yes, and...? Technically, Ken was the last of the kids to forgive himself. \\\'\\\'
Daisuke trusted Ken before Ken even tried to change, or showed any interest in changing, that\\\'s why no one took his word for it, and the point still stands.
\\\'\\\'No. Episode 8 falls right into continuity and the main plot line. How can you even compare it to episode 13, with its significantly-creepier-than-average Lovecraft homage? \\\'\\\'
Actually episode 8 was just a throw-away episode, while 13 was made with the intention of introducing a new storyline (which was dropped due to executive meddling). So yeah it holds more weight than episode 8.
\\\'\\\'Yes, which doesn\\\'t negate a single thing shown about Daisuke\\\'s personality in that scene.\\\'\\\'
However, the personality that was shown was not a hidden depth, nor was it any different from his determinator, and Reckless personality that was shown before hand. Daisuke was outright stated to have a good heart, however, he is stupid, stubborn, doesn\\\'t think he acts, jealous, reckless, and is a bit of a jerk. All that scene was showing was three previously established points of his personality, not a new one.
\\\'\\\'Iori was heavily against working with Ken at first, and held no small amount of distrust and resentment. Miyako was very uncertain. (Even in the episode where Ken seals off Demon to the Dark Ocean, she\\\'s the very last to join the group and grab onto his hands. She certainly didn\\\'t have full trust in him by episode 25.) Takeru and Hikari are more ambiguous, but they take a while to come around as well — for example, Takeru believes early on that Ken has changed, but isn\\\'t completely in favor of him joining the team either. In contrast, Daisuke was unconditionally accepting of Ken. \\\'\\\'
That\\\'s because of how Ken had behaved beforehand, also \\\'\\\'\\\'Ken\\\'\\\'\\\' understood why Iori was behaving that way, and didn\\\'t blame them for it. You need to remember that Daisuke only got to understand Ken because of Dues Ex Machina which wasn\\\'t given to other children. Daisuke didn\\\'t know anything about Ken and didn\\\'t learn anything about him until the other kids did. Yo need to remember that \\\'\\\'\\\'None\\\'\\\'\\\' of the new kids (even Daisuke) knew anything about Ken beforehand.
\\\'\\\'Yes, and...? Technically, Ken was the last of the kids to forgive himself. \\\'\\\'
Daisuke trusted Ken before Ken even tried to change, or showed any interest in changing, that\\\'s why no one took his word for it, and the point still stands.
