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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* WindmillCrusader
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More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* WindmillCrusader
* TheChosenOne:
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More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
to:
*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* SoulsavingCrusader \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' WindmillCrusader, depending on point of view.
* TheChosenOne:
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More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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Edit: The page is being revised here: Sandbox.TheProphetMuhammad.
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* HeelFaceTurn: Umar and Abu Sufyan were opponents of his before embracing islam and becioming prominent muslim figures.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* SoulsavingCrusader \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' WindmillCrusader, depending on point of view.
* TheChosenOne:
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More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
to:
*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* HeelFaceTurn: Umar and Abu Sufyan were opponents of his before embracing islam and becioming prominent muslim figures.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* SoulsavingCrusader \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' WindmillCrusader, depending on point of view.
* TheChosenOne:
----
More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \
to:
*** TheHero: Muhammed SAWS.[[hottip:*: SAWS = shorthand for the Arabic \\\"Salallahu \\\'alayhi wa salam\\\", or roughly \\\"May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him\\\", traditionally said after the Prophet Muhammed is mentioned.]]
*** TheLancer: Abu Bakr Sadiq RA. [[hottip:*: RA = shorthand for either \\\"Radiy Allahu Anhu\\\" ( \\\"May Allah be pleased with Him\\\") or \\\"Radiy Allahu Anha\\\" (\\\"May Allah be pleased with Her\\\"); used in reference to the companions of Muhummad.]]
*** TheBigGuy: Hamza RA, Bilal.
*** TheSmartGuy: Muhammed SAWS.
*** TheChick: Khadijah RA.
*** TheMedic: Nafl ibn Al Harith.
* GuileHero / MagnificentBastard: Depending on [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the view of]] [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade the author or yourself]], but whichever one it is, there is no questioning his accomplishments as the classical Arabian leader par-excellance. He managed to go from being a caravaneer to being a fugitive on the run with a handful of his loyal followers and - through masterfully playing the political scene and a series of military victories- toppled the regional superpower of the day and who set the stage for things such as the Imperial expansion out of the Peninsula and the growth of Arabia in a political and economic power on the *global* stage. [[ChosenOne Along with-you know- being recognized as the modern founder of one of the world\\\'s great religions.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He and his followers had many enemies. Also applicable on a historical basis.
* HeelFaceTurn: Umar and Abu Sufyan were opponents of his before embracing islam and becioming prominent muslim figures.
* JesusWasWayCool: Muhammad regarded Jesus as a holy man, a prophet of God, a wise teacher of morality and so on. He dismissed the idea that Jesus was God or son of God as UnwantedFalseFaith that didn\\\'t pop up until after Jesus died. Today, Islam still regard Jesus as second in holiness only to Muhammad himself.
* NoWomansLand: Stories tend to focus either on how bad it was or on how Muhammad made it better. For example, daughters didn\\\'t have any right to inherit from their parents at all, but Muhammed changed it so that a daughter would at least inherit half as much as a son.
* SoulsavingCrusader \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' WindmillCrusader, depending on point of view.
* TheChosenOne:
----
More tropes removed:
* CrapsackWorld: Mecca before Islam is similar.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Umar had asked him for some verses about hijab before they were revealed, and apparently a woman complained during revelation about only mean being referenced to abd not men in the Quran.
I frankly don\\\'t get what this means, seems like something has gone wrong in translation.
* ProudMerchantRace: Settled Arabian society was very much this. Muhummad was born to a merchant family , married into amother one, and was an accomplished caravaneer, and his enemies [[TheEmpire the Quaresh]] were this as well.
* ProudWarriorRace: The *other* side of the coin on Arabian society, particularly amongst the more nomadic groups, but even the more established groups had this.
In my understanding of the tropes, ProudMerchantRace and ProudWarriorRace can only be applied to fictional races. Also, it\\\'s a page about Muhammad, not about Arabs.
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