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Sure, a work can highlight a female character who converses primarily with men, but there are many more traps than the obvious \
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Sure, a work can highlight a female character who converses primarily with men, but there are many more traps than the obvious \\\"female character equals sex object\\\" one you\\\'ve mentioned. Such as \\\"woman\\\'s goals and achievements are defined by men in her life\\\", \\\"woman becomes independent by evolving beyond her Woman Problems\\\", \\\"man is hastily rewritten as female to fill a quota\\\", et cetera. These kinds of characters are sometimes worse than having no women at all.
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It\'s important not to think of the Bechdel test as the Ultimate Arbiter of Feminism in Fiction. It\'s equally important, however, not to ignore it. Audience members ought to be aware of the way works of fiction can make the universe revolve around men even while including female characters.
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First off, the original comic is played for laughs. I don\\\'t think anyone actually avoids all movies that fail the Bechdel Test. If nothing else, it\\\'s a fairly difficult thing to check ahead of time.
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As to your actual point, it\\\'s important not to think of the Bechdel test as the Ultimate Arbiter of Feminism in Fiction. It\\\'s equally important, however, not to ignore it. Audience members ought to be aware of the way works of fiction can make the universe revolve around men even while including female characters.

Sure, a work can highlight a female character who converses primarily with men, but there are many more traps than the obvious \\\"female character equals sex object\\\" one you\\\'ve mentioned. Such as \\\"woman\\\'s goals and achievements are defined by men in her life\\\", \\\"woman becomes independent by evolving beyond her Woman Problems\\\", \\\"man is hastily rewritten as female to fill a quota\\\", et cetera. These kinds of characters are sometimes worse than having no women at all.

As to the sexism, I\\\'d refer you to the Reverse Bechdel Test. The list of works in which two men talk at least once about things that aren\\\'t
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