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Drolyt
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\\\"What anyone has to gain is getting their facts straight. Rape isn\\\'t special kind of evil. Saying that raping a person is worse than maiming or murdering that person is a mistake at best.As joeyjojo said, this is double standard and that\\\'s the problem.\\\"
I\\\'d agree with you, but there is a bit of YMMV going on here. It doesn\\\'t help that the evidence is fairly strong that personal reactions to rape differ tremendously, from people who move on with their lives almost immediately to those who are scarred for life. (Note: I would like to point out that those who move on are not necessarily \\\"stronger\\\" or \\\"better adjusted\\\", and that those who are hurt definitely deserve sympathy and help). For myself, I would much rather be raped than die or suffer a debilitating injury that decreases my quality of life, but I don\\\'t think I\\\'m in the majority there. Some people really do view it as a fate worse than death. Regardless I don\\\'t think we should be suggesting that rape is okay, although I don\\\'t think the page does that. If anyone has any specific recommendations for improving the article that would be better than a blanket statement.
kylee
\\\"I\\\'m a little skeeved out, too, because rape is a special kind of evil and I\\\'m not sure what anyone has to gain by implying it\\\'s not.\\\"
It is a matter of being objective in your decisions. When someone makes a statement like \\\"rape is a special kind of evil\\\" you HAVE to be critical in your assessment, since it affects such a large part of our legal system and culture. We cannot afford to make mistakes in this area, because giving into hype and hysteria can result in various negative effects, including rapists going free and innocents being thrown in jail and having their lives ruined. So yes, although it may seem like splitting hairs, we have to dig deeper into these issues, even if it may be uncomfortable, and even if it means going against the (unexamined and possibly baseless) consensus.
I\\\'d agree with you, but there is a bit of YMMV going on here. It doesn\\\'t help that the evidence is fairly strong that personal reactions to rape differ tremendously, from people who move on with their lives almost immediately to those who are scarred for life. (Note: I would like to point out that those who move on are not necessarily \\\"stronger\\\" or \\\"better adjusted\\\", and that those who are hurt definitely deserve sympathy and help). For myself, I would much rather be raped than die or suffer a debilitating injury that decreases my quality of life, but I don\\\'t think I\\\'m in the majority there. Some people really do view it as a fate worse than death. Regardless I don\\\'t think we should be suggesting that rape is okay, although I don\\\'t think the page does that. If anyone has any specific recommendations for improving the article that would be better than a blanket statement.
kylee
\\\"I\\\'m a little skeeved out, too, because rape is a special kind of evil and I\\\'m not sure what anyone has to gain by implying it\\\'s not.\\\"
It is a matter of being objective in your decisions. When someone makes a statement like \\\"rape is a special kind of evil\\\" you HAVE to be critical in your assessment, since it affects such a large part of our legal system and culture. We cannot afford to make mistakes in this area, because giving into hype and hysteria can result in various negative effects, including rapists going free and innocents being thrown in jail and having their lives ruined. So yes, although it may seem like splitting hairs, we have to dig deeper into these issues, even if it may be uncomfortable, and even if it means going against the (unexamined and possibly baseless) consensus.
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\\\"What anyone has to gain is getting their facts straight. Rape isn\\\'t special kind of evil. Saying that raping a person is worse than maiming or murdering that person is a mistake at best.As joeyjojo said, this is double standard and that\\\'s the problem.\\\"
I\\\'d agree with you, but there is a bit of YMMV going on here. It doesn\\\'t help that the evidence is fairly strong that personal reactions to rape differ tremendously, from people who move on with their lives almost immediately to those who are scarred for life. (Note: I would like to point out that those who move on are not necessarily \\\"stronger\\\" or \\\"better adjusted\\\", and that those who are hurt definitely deserve sympathy and help). For myself, I would much rather be raped than die or suffer a debilitating injury that decreases my quality of life, but I don\\\'t think I\\\'m in the majority there. Some people really do view it as a fate worse than death. Regardless I don\\\'t think we should be suggesting that rape is okay, although I don\\\'t think the page does that. If anyone has any specific recommendations for improving the article that would be better than a blanket statement.
kylee
\\\"I\\\'m a little skeeved out, too, because rape is a special kind of evil and I\\\'m not sure what anyone has to gain by implying it\\\'s not.\\\"
It is a matter of being objective in your decisions. When someone makes a statement like \\\"rape is a special kind of evil\\\" you HAVE to be critical in your assessment, since it affects such a large part of our legal system and culture. We cannot afford to make mistakes in this area, because giving into hype and hysteria can result in various negative effects, including rapists going free and innocents being thrown in jail and having their lives ruined. So yes, although it may seem like splitting hairs, we have to dig deeper into these issues, even if it may be uncomfortable, and even if it means going against the (unexamined and possibly baseless) consensus.
