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->\\\'\\\'\\\"Most of the world\\\'s industrial and military power was crippled, except for the US? Right.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only \\\'\\\'after\\\'\\\' Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were trying to gather scattered forces and mentioned there may have been some more hiding in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only \\\'\\\'after\\\'\\\' Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were trying to gather scattered forces and mentioned there may have been some more hiding in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
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->\\\'\\\'\\\"Most of the world\\\'s industrial and military power was crippled, except for the US? Right.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only \\\'\\\'after\\\'\\\' Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only \\\'\\\'after\\\'\\\' Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
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->\\\'\\\'\\\"Most of the world\\\'s industrial and military power was crippled, except for the US? Right.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only /after/ Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only /after/ Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world, the tactics of the alien invasion, and the nature of Area 51 gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
Changed line(s) 10 from:
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to:
->\\\'\\\'\\\"Most of the world\\\'s industrial and military power was crippled, except for the US? Right.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only /after/ Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world and the tactics of the alien invasion gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
I don\\\'t recall the film saying the United States military was spared from the alien invasion. We\\\'re shown a clip of El Toro torn to bits by attack ships as context. In fact, General William Grey says the American military was reduced to \\\'\\\'fifteen percent\\\'\\\' of its total manpower. Go take a look at the order of battle for the American armed forces some time. That is a massive, \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' blow.
The U.S. was suffering just as much as the rest of the world. That\\\'s why, you know, the tropers who wrote the example specified \\\'\\\'entire world\\\'\\\' was reeling from an alien attack.
->\\\'\\\'\\\"And it\\\'s shown that there\\\'s communication around the world so obviously they could\\\'ve reached foreign scientists/military personnel/etc. if the writer wanted to.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"There\\\'s communication around the world\\\" does not imply there\\\'s *reliable* communication around the world, something very clearly established early on in the film.
Your statement also ignores the fact we\\\'re talking about \\\'\\\'Area 51\\\'\\\', which in the film was pictured as being a top-secret facility with a \\\'\\\'massive\\\'\\\' underground complex, known only to the head of the CIA and \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the president or his chiefs of staff.
By the time they were aware of its existence, and by the time a civilian computer specialist came up with his crazy idea, the situation was extremely dire and getting worse with clockwork regularity. General Grey mentions that in just a day and a half, every major city on the planet would be completely destroyed by the aliens.
There wasn\\\'t \\\'\\\'time\\\'\\\' for the scientists at Area 51 to consult the international scientific community, much less the \\\'\\\'\\\'American\\\'\\\'\\\' scientific community! Snarkers often overlook that--the Area 51 personnel didn\\\'t even consult with other surviving American research facilities or military bases concerning the trojan horse virus plan!
The \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' communication made worldwide was the coded message entailing \\\'\\\'what\\\'\\\' they were planning.
Why does pointing all this out matter? Because the whole final battle and events leading up to it was a DarkestHour moment for the United States \\\'\\\'and everyone else.\\\'\\\' It was only by the luck of having a scout craft crash in Roswell, New Mexico that the United States even \\\'\\\'had\\\'\\\' any kind of ace up its sleeve.
Speaking of which, the whole scene where General Grey tells his morse code team to broadcast how to bring the alien ships down--that was only /after/ Russell Casse [[ForMassiveDamage kamikaze\\\'d the ship in its weak point]]. Beforehand, the American fighters were doing what everyone else was probably doing--pumping missiles into the ships at random, without knowing the weak point.
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"In fact, every non-American country was shown waiting for the Americans to do something.\\\"\\\'\\\'
I think that\\\'s just what people want to see out of the scenes involving non-American forces. They weren\\\'t so much \\\"waiting around\\\" as being shown in the middle of trying to regroup their forces (recall that they were looking for trying to gather scattered forces in the Golan [[strike:Strait]] Heights). The British officer\\\'s \\\"it\\\'s about bloody time\\\" comment sounds more like a \\\"The Americans are {{late to the party}} \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\'\\\" jab rather than \\\"Finally, the Americans will rescue us!\\\"
-> \\\'\\\'\\\"Face it, the movie plays this trope very straight. Even Armageddon had that Russian guy!\\\"\\\'\\\'
To quote the JustifiedTrope page, \\\"remember that a trope being justified is not about it ultimately being good or bad or effective or ineffective--it\\\'s about whether or not it makes sense from an in-universe point of view. A trope can be perfectly justified and still ruin a show.\\\"
The state of the world and the tactics of the alien invasion gave perfect in-universe sense for this film\\\'s usage of AmericaSavesTheDay. Whether or not you think the movie was good is a completely different matter.
