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Well, I got an unspecific \\\"strongly autistic in some areas, along with various other disorders such as bipolar, add, ocd, with possibly signs of tourettes and formerly damp, but high verbal capability\\\" diagnosis, and people always tended to lump me in with Aspergers after that.

My experience of interacting with other autistic is mostly that we have extremely different symtoms from case to case, including the strength of them (sometimes so mild that it is arguable if it even qualifies, and no regrettably I\\\'m not one of those), but I tried to summarise the sum experiences and information I had, since the previous text (and especially the examples some tend to insert), read as misleading to me. There are probably many other autistic people who are more well-read about it though, but use the parts that you find useful.

In any case afaIk as of February this year, the \\\"Asperger\\\" has been retired, and it is simply referred to as within the autistic spectrum. Possibly due to the frequent misconceptions that Asperger is automatically \\\"autism-lite\\\", which creates serious problems for those of us who vary between severe to light depending on the area, as in some respects we really do need a lot of assistance and direction, but have serious potential in others given the right organisation.

People (including some of those with light diagnoses) frequently want \\\"convenient\\\" either-or \\\"manages fine on his/her own, and everything is easily solved with the right attitude\\\"/\\\"if that person I talked to yesterday with much less severe symtoms in entirely different areas, and with much better circumstances can, so can you with much less effort than you already spend, and you only choose to be this way\\\"/\\\"let them vegetate until they starve to death as they are hopeless cases anyway\\\" plattitudes. It\\\'s very annoying to constantly sift through misconceptions, especially extremely distorted vilifications, but then that probably goes for people with light symtoms who are assumed to be severe as well, and the recurrent misdiagnoses (see the ADD-/Ritalin-craze a few years back) don\\\'t help either. It easily leads to generalising \\\"It doesn\\\'t exist at all!\\\" idiocy.

Anyway, most autistic including \\\"Aspergers\\\" can think in visuals, or at least when we dream, and people with verbal ability are definitely not necessarily \\\"high-functioning\\\" (and that\\\'s another area-diverging term for most autistic), but I suppose that those with less ability for words tend to think in the symbols they have available.
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Well, I got an unspecific \
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Well, I got an unspecific \\\"strongly autistic in some areas, along with various other disorders such as bipolar, add, ocd, with possibly signs of tourettes and formerly damp, but high verbal capability\\\" diagnosis, and people always tended to lump me in with Aspergers after that.

My experience of interacting with other autistic is mostly that we have extremely different symtoms from case to case, including the strength of them (sometimes so mild that it is arguable if it even qualifies, and no regrettably I\\\'m not one of those), but I tried to summarise the sum experiences and information I had, since the previous text (and especially the examples some tend to insert), read as misleading to me. There are probably many other autistic people who are more well-read about it though, but use the parts that you find useful.

In any case afaIk as of February this year, the \\\"Asperger\\\" has been retired, and it is simply referred to as within the autistic spectrum. Possibly due to the frequent misconceptions that Asperger is automatically \\\"autism-lite\\\", which creates serious problems for those of us who vary between severe to light depending on the area, as in some respects we really do need a lot of assistance and direction, but have serious potential in others given the right organisation.

People (including some of those with light diagnoses) frequently want \\\"convenient\\\" either-or \\\"manages fine on his/her own, and everything is easily solved with the right attitude\\\"/\\\"if that person I talked to yesterday with much less severe symtoms in entirely different areas, and with much better circumstances can, so can you with much less effort than you already spend, and you only choose to be this way\\\"/\\\"let them vegetate until they starve to death as they are hopeless cases anyway\\\" plattitudes. It\\\'s very annoying to constantly sift through misconceptions, especially extreme vilifications, but then that probably goes for people with light symtoms who are assumed to be severe as well, and the recurrent misdiagnoses (see the ADD-/Ritalin-craze a few years back) don\\\'t help either. It easily leads to generalising \\\"It doesn\\\'t exist at all!\\\" idiocy.

Anyway, most autistic including \\\"Aspergers\\\" can think in visuals, or at least when we dream, and people with verbal ability are definitely not necessarily \\\"high-functioning\\\" (and that\\\'s another area-diverging term for most autistic), but I suppose that those with less ability for words tend to think in the symbols they have available.
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Well, I got an unspecific \
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Well, I got an unspecific \\\"strongly autistic in some areas, along with various other disorders such as bipolar, add, ocd, with possibly signs of tourettes and formerly damp, but high verbal capability\\\" diagnosis, and people always tended to lump me in with Aspergers after that.

My experience of interacting with other autistic is mostly that we have extremely different symtoms from case to case, including the strength of them (sometimes so mild that it is arguable if it even qualifies, and no regrettably I\\\'m not one of those), but I tried to summarise the sum experiences and information I had, since the previous text (and especially the examples some tend to insert), read as misleading to me. There are probably many other autistic people who are more well-read about it though, but use the parts that you find useful.

In any case afaIk as of February this year, the \\\"Asperger\\\" has been retired, and it is simply referred to as within the autistic spectrum. Possibly due to the frequent misconceptions that Asperger is automatically \\\"autism-lite\\\", which creates serious problems for those of us who vary between severe to light depending on the area, as in some respects we really do need a lot of assistance and direction, but have serious potential in others given the right organisation.

People (including some of those with light diagnoses) frequently want \\\"convenient\\\" either-or \\\"manages fine on his/her own, and everything is easily solved with the right attitude\\\"/\\\"if that person I talked to yesterday with much less severe symtoms in entirely different areas, and with much better circumstances can, so can you with much less effort than you already spend, and you only choose to be this way\\\"/\\\"let them vegetate until they starve to death as they are hopeless cases anyway\\\" plattitudes. It\\\'s very annoying to constantly sift through misconceptions, especially extreme vilifications, but then that probably goes for people with light symtoms who are assumed to be severe as well, and the recurrent misdiagnoses (see the ADD-/Ritalin-craze a few years back) don\\\'t help either. It easily leads to generalising \\\"it doesn\\\'t exist at all!\\\" idiocy.

Anyway, most autistic including \\\"Aspergers\\\" can think in visuals, or at least when we dream, and people with verbal ability are definitely not necessarily \\\"high-functioning\\\" (and that\\\'s another area-diverging term for most autistic), but I suppose that those with less ability for words tend to think in the symbols they have available.
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Well, I got an unspecific \
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Well, I got an unspecific \\\"strongly autistic in some areas, along with various other disorders such as bipolar, add, ocd, with possibly signs of tourettes and formerly damp, but high verbal capability\\\" diagnosis, and people always tended to lump me in with Aspergers after that.

My experience of interacting with other autistic is mostly that we have extremely different symtoms from case to case, including the strength of them (sometimes so mild that it is arguable if it even qualifies, and no regrettably I\\\'m not one of those), but I tried to summarise the sum experiences and information I had, since the previous text (and especially the examples some tend to insert), read as misleading to me. There are probably many other autistic people who are more well-read about it though, but use the parts that you find useful.

In any case afaIk as of February this year, the \\\"Asperger\\\" has been retired, and it is simply referred to as within the autistic spectrum. Possibly due to the frequent misconceptions that Asperger is automatically \\\"autism-lite\\\", which creates serious problems for those of us who vary between severe to light depending on the area, as in some respects we really do need a lot of assistance and direction, but have serious potential in others given the right organisation.

People (including some of those with light diagnoses) frequently want \\\"convenient\\\" either-or \\\"manages fine on his/her own, and everything is easily solved with the right attitude\\\"/\\\"if that person I talked to yesterday with much less severe symtoms in entirely different areas, and with much better circumstances can, so can you with much less effort than you already spend, and you only choose to be this way\\\"/\\\"let them vegetate until they starve to death as they are hopeless cases anyway\\\" plattitudes. It\\\'s very annoying to constantly sift through misconceptions, especially the ongoing [[UpToEleven extreme]] North American entertainment media vilifications, but then that probably goes for people with light symtoms who are assumed to be severe as well, and the recurrent misdiagnoses (see the ADD-/Ritalin-craze a few years back) don\\\'t help either. It easily leads to generalising \\\"it doesn\\\'t exist at all!\\\" idiocy.

Anyway, most autistic including \\\"Aspergers\\\" can think in visuals, or at least when we dream, and people with verbal ability are definitely not necessarily \\\"high-functioning\\\" (and that\\\'s another area-diverging term for most autistic), but I suppose that those with less ability for words tend to think in the symbols they have available.
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