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openSome differences between source novels and an adaptation in a videogame Videogame
- Baldur's Gate changed some tropes for drow and Rashemen people compared to source material (novels, manuals etc.). The drow originally had brownish to black skin, while the game popularized them having striking noticeable blue skin, ranging from graysh to silver blue and dark blue.
- Rashemen was a country essentially based on Eastern Europe, but with prominents elements from Tatar, Turkish, Sami, and Ugric culture. The game introduced the idea of an expy of Russia through Minsc, which was later brought again in Neverwinter Nights 2.
- Minsc in particular is notable because he is characteristically bald, while in the lore baldness was virtually non-existant in the culture of Rashemen, as the Rashemi people took great pride in their long hair (interestingly, the reviled novels are based on very early drafts of the game, where Minsc was described as long haired).
- Another change is in the "witches of Rashemen" that lead the country. In the lore, the wychlaran always wear masks, and are strictly chosen from the free tribes of Rashemen that directly descend from the Raumviran ethnic group, which was strictly related to the Sossrim, which were northerners with pale skin said to be related with the Frost People. The game introduced Dynaheir, a black woman (meaning she was either the daughter of immigrants, adopted from foreigners, or a freed slave, all concepts that were not characteristical of Rashemen and its witches), as the first wychlaran for many players. Masks are never mentioned.
- Then we have the red wizards of Thay, who always shave their heads if they are not naturally bald. The game introduces Edwin, who has thick hair. As if he and Minsc swapped the supposed fashion.
Which tropes do you think would best fit those topics?
resolved Trope about attacking with Toys
I know there are tropes about equipping remote-controlled toys with real weapons, but is there one specifically about using toys (of any kind) to attack people? Maybe a toy gun that shoots real bullets or stuffed animals with real claws?
openStereotype of a nationality
In the film Stillwater, the character of Virginie is stereotypically French: Virginie is very stereotypically French: An avante-garde theater actress who's sex positive, multicultural in her friend circle and has a slight disdain towards American cultural attitudes
openUse of extras in ways that lead to plot-hole territory
In the TV show "Herman's Head" there are other people who work in the office, but they are never shown interacting with the cast. It's to the point where it doesn't even make sense to have them there. Why would the boss call staff meetings and never invite the "other people in the office."
Cheers might also qualify since the bargoers outside of Norm, Cliff, and Frasier rarely are remembered or frequently noted by the bartenders.
Additionally, there have always been questions in Glee about the backup band. If there guys are a small band of outcasts, is the band lesser outcasts? How come they aren't even part of the social clique?
openRomantic Comedy - Sincere advice from Comic Relief Film
Is there a trope for when a comic relief character in a Romantic Comedy, maybe one of the protagonist's Amazingly Embarrassing Parents, stops being Played for Laughs and gives the protagonist an earnest bit of insight/advice about romantic love that's relevant to their relationship with their love interest. Like in Friends with Benefits where Mila Kunis' mom stops joking about not being able to remember the identity of Mila's father and says that her dad was the only man she ever truly loved?
open"you should go away very quickly for no reason"
A character is part of a plan to kill some people, using a method that must be set in motion in advance. (e.g. poisoning a vat of wine, or hiding a time bomb under a table.) Unfortunately, after they set the plan in motion but before people start dying, either a person they don't want to kill shows up and unknowingly puts themselves in the line of fire, or they have a change of heart about one of the people they want to kill.
The aspiring murderer now has to try and convince the person they don't want dead to leave without explaining the real reason why. Often, they fail to do so, and are forced to choose between letting the person die to save their plan, or revealing their plan to everyone to save the person.
one famous example would be Hamlet, where Claudius tries to poison Hamlet via his drink, but Gertrude ends up with his glass accidentally; Claudius tries to tell her not to drink from it, but does not tell her why, so she ignores him and is fatally poisoned.
openGlamorizing an awful job
Is there a trope for when a work depicts an occupation as glamorous and easy that in the real world is known to be dangerous (whether due to violence, frequent accidents, or exposure to toxins or diseases), physically intensive, poor-paying, or otherwise all-around terrible? I've seen tropes for specific jobs (Unproblematic Prostitution, for example), but nothing for this in general. Tropes for in-universe depictions work as well (like if in-universe propaganda promotes War Is Glorious when the setting is very much War Is Hell).
openExpected Tolerance, Got Ignorance
Basically, when someone thinks someone else did something good for them because they share their beliefs (or out of the gooodness of their heart), but really, the person did something good on accident due to lack of knowledge about whatever it is the first person is in trouble for.
Example:
At the beginning of Riku's visit to La Cité des Cloches in Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance], Esmeralda runs past Riku. A moment later, Phoebus, hot on her trail, approaches him and asks if he's seen a Romani woman. Riku tells him he hasn't, and Phoebus leaves.
Afterwards, Esmeralda appears and thanks Riku for standing up for her, seemingly believing Riku covered for her on purpose. Riku responds with, "It's not like I know what a [Romani] is."
He didn't tell Phoebus about a Romani because he doesn't know what a Romani is, and therefore could not recognize such a person, not because he isn't prejudiced against them.
The closest tropes I've found are False Reassurance, and maybe Bait-and-Switch Sentiment?
Edited by viva_la_pastaresolved The emperor has no clothes
Everyone can see that something isn't true, but they all act like they believe it because everyone else says it's true, and they don't want to look stupid by being the dissenter.
openPathetic Prostitute Patron
Men who hire prostitutes are shown to be pathetic, and not just in the Lousy Lovers Are Losers way.
Often tiny (in all aspects) or fat/schlubby, tend to be Henpecked Husbands whining about how their wives don't respect them (all the while giving plenty of evidence as to why they aren't worthy of respect) or Salarymen using the prostitute as an impromptu therapist to complain about their bosses/coworkers/family, lacking in charisma or physical attractiveness, have bizarre and disgusting fetishes, etc.
The prostitute herself is often shown sitting there looking bored by his talking or clearly waiting for him to finish already with no change in expression.
Edited by Chabal2openEgregious Unfolding
An object or weapon includes a function which allows it to compact down to a size that would be impossible in real life. This goes the other way as well, providing an explanation for why a character can carry around something absurdly large without utilizing Hammerspace.
openGenetic Evil on the Male Line
In Blade of the Moon Princess, we learn that an old branch of the family was exiled due to the evil actions of their heirs a long time ago. While the royal line is supposed to only produce girls, who have a certain level of control over their magic, the gene does not pass to male heirs. So when two twin boys were born, they had zero control over their powers and were both seen as bloodthirsty monsters who murdered their wives on their wedding day.
What I'm looking for is something, or perhaps multiple things, that can cover this scenario.
openMistaken For Fictional
A character finds evidence of something that actually happened, but they mistake it for a work of fiction. For instance, coming across the scene of a crime and thinking it's the set of a horror film.
The closest I can find is We Were Rehearsing a Play or Fiction as Cover-Up, but this is obliviousness, not deception.
Edited by LendriMujinaresolved Tropem related to invention
What is name of trope related to something like "scientist created New invention, good right? Well they doesn't understand how it even works. Oh, that might be the problem"
openSurprise Nonhuman Narrator
The story's narrator turns out to be been something else all along, sometimes an animal but even an object (in a setting where animated objects aren't the norm.
There's a 40K comic where the narrator keeps talking about his accomplishments and who he served with over images of a Space Marine fighting, ending on how he doesn't want to end up abandoned as the Marine dies... and then it turns out it was his gun talking all along.
Edited by Chabal2openHolding Out For A Hero
Hello.
This time I am looking for something that is exactly like the trope name indicates, that is, a person that feels trapped and desperately wants someone to be their knight in shining armor to come and save them from their situation. It is not necessarily that they are a Damsel in Distress but they still feel trapped and they hate their situation. The actual Holding Out for a Hero does not appear to cover this instance.
Anything that might fit?
openYes-men are the best soldiers
Do we have a trope where soldiers who obey every command from their military officer are seen in-universe as the best type of soldier? Think this scene from Forrest Gump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4gCt1rUEpE
openLet's all agree that it happened like this.
To hide the truth and/or escape potential pursuit by law enforcement a group of people agrees on a fake made-up testimony.
Edited by sohibil
A character lifts another character to keep them from talking. Usually, they carry them somewhere to talk.