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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#1: Oct 18th 2020 at 3:05:33 PM

As discussed here, Does This Remind You of Anything? has a staggering amount of misuse, and it's been decided a cleanup thread would be a good place to start. Since it's such a popular trope, a long-term thread seemed like the best option.

For a place to start, there's DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything.Western Animation, which seems to have some Getting Crap Past the Radar-esque vibes of "This kids' show is actually really adult and deep" even when many of these metaphors are simply audience readings.

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#2: Oct 18th 2020 at 3:31:06 PM

[up] How do we determine what's just an audience reading and what isn't?

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#3: Oct 18th 2020 at 3:32:42 PM

I think the first thing we need is to actually define the trope. At least, that's what I need. I've seen so much misuse and the name and laconic as both so vague that I'm never sure what actually is an example.

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#4: Oct 18th 2020 at 3:35:17 PM

Well, that's what makes the trope a bit difficult, isn't it?

Personally if it's something very unlikely for the genre and doesn't give enough supporting context that suggests multiple factors to the synonym, like a Lampshaded Double Entendre, then I'm wary. Like, I saw a Fairly OddParents example that said Crocker shouting "FAIRIES!" is meant to look like an orgasm, which is very much not true. There's also the issue of how much of the scene is a metaphor and how much is literal. "Abusive friendship symbolizes abusive relationship" is okay, "abusive friendship symbolizes abusive friendship" is not.

EDIT: Ninja'd, but I agree, which is why I sent it to TRS first. The trope is kind of vaguely defined.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 18th 2020 at 6:35:51 AM

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#5: Oct 18th 2020 at 4:33:04 PM

TBH, I still think this needs TRS work done. Less than a third of the wicks in the wick check used the trope properly, and the title is still vague.

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#6: Oct 18th 2020 at 8:04:02 PM

Judging from the misused examples on the wickcheck list, there must be tons of easy-to-spot targets to clean up. I would leave questionable examples alone though.

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#7: Oct 18th 2020 at 8:11:40 PM

Hence why I linked the Western Animation page. Like, this example is an obvious shoehorn.

There's no metaphor here. Insulting somebody's face is just as common an insult as insulting their mom. If the context obviously stands on its own without any additional subtext, then chances are it isn't this trope.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 18th 2020 at 11:11:51 AM

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#8: Jan 5th 2021 at 9:29:01 PM

The Nightmare Before Christmas:

I think the midlife crisis thing is just what's happening at face value without any metaphor, and is thus a circular example. The second entry sounds valid, though.

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#9: Jan 8th 2021 at 12:37:22 PM

Found this on Kill la Kill. These are mostly just the ones that are sexual metaphores, except for the second one.

  • Does This Remind You of Anything?:
    • When Ryuko first finds Senketsu, he tries to undress her and force her to wear him. Then the camera pulls back and we can see him ripping off her clothes while she protests, and then she explodes with power:
      Ryuko: Stop! Ahhh!
      Senketsu: That's better! I'm a perfect fit!
      Ryuko: Ahhh! Stop it!
    • Satsuki putting Junketsu on for the first time. Considering Satsuki's father described it as her "wedding dress"... The undertones become much, much creepier when Ragyo Mind Rapes Ryuko and she has a vision where she's standing beside a faceless groom at a chapel while in a wedding dress. Did we mention that Junketsu is being sewed to her skin while this is happening? Yeah...
    • Tsumugu standing over Ryuko with one foot between her thighs and ordering her to strip in Episode 5.
    • In Episode 8, Gamagoori uses his Combat Sadomasochist powered-uniform, and remarks that the "punishment makes it bigger and harder." He may not have just been talking about his uniform. Mako even calls him a "pervert" in response. He even states that once he absorbs a certain amount of damage, he'll "climax". Aaaaand the resulting explosion rather fits this description. Even during the damage absorption process Gamagoori sounds rather......excited by the damage inflicted upon him, screaming to "punish" him more.
    • The members of Nudist Beach holster their guns in front of their crotches, with the barrel facing down. At one point, Aikuro is holding a giant Tailor's Dagger at crotch height and offers it to Tsumugu, who takes hold of it very deliberately, and pulls it out of its sheath.
    • In Episode 18, Ragyo beats the hell out of Satsuki and takes Junketsu from her by stroking her crotch, followed by an explosion which leaves Satsuki unconscious. In other words, she stole her "purity".
    • Nudist Beach's already decidedly phallic battleship turning into a "naked blade" form and penetrating the Primordial Life Fibre's cocoon.
    • In Episode 24, Ragyo powers up Shinra-Koketsu using a dress made of a merged Nui and the Primordial Life Fiber, and the noise she makes whilst taking off sounds very much like she's having an orgasm. Her speech at the time — "You feel amazing to wear, Nui!" — lends credence to this.
    • And then there's the giant Life Fiber transmission tower that is, ahem, "disciplined" by Gamagoori, and proceeds to shoot liquid out the top. And was protected by a "big rubber barrier".
    • The ending scene of the episode where the whole of Honnouji Academy are lying naked in a pile has Satsuki and Jakuzure lying next to each other, with Jakuzure's hand in a...suspicious position, to say the least.

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#10: Jan 13th 2021 at 1:24:45 PM

The TRS thread chose to define Does This Remind You of Anything? as a deliberate, non-tautological reference to something in Real Life; the criteria (drafted here) would likely be similar to the Expy cleanup thread.

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#11: Mar 3rd 2021 at 1:13:34 PM

From The Good Place (season 3 spoiler I guess):

Is this really symbolic of anything in particular, or just a means of conveying this argument about capitalism? Capitalism still exists in this world and gets criticized on the show several times.

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#12: Mar 9th 2021 at 11:54:05 AM

I have an example on Fate of the Clans. I checked the criterea and I'm pretty sure it fits, but could someone please check just in case? I need to know if I should delete it.

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#13: Mar 9th 2021 at 12:51:32 PM

Sure. Can you show us what it is?

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#14: Mar 9th 2021 at 1:58:43 PM

This is it from the edit page.

  • Does This Remind You of Anything?: Cú Chulainn bites the side of Mikoto's neck and starts drinking his blood. Mikoto was the one who asked the Servant to do it, however, as it's a way for Cú Chulainn to replenish his mana. Misaki points out what it resembles.
    Misaki: He's not preyin' on the King like a vampire?

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#15: Nov 11th 2022 at 11:47:34 AM

What is the exact difference between Allegory and Does This Remind You of Anything?? Is the former only for when the metaphor is present throughout the entire narrative while the latter is only about gags? Because if so, that could be a good thing to bring attention to in the description to avoid misuse.

Edited by good-morning on Nov 11th 2022 at 4:48:26 PM

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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#16: Feb 29th 2024 at 4:15:13 PM

Taking an axe to the Western Animation page. So much of this is so redundant, I'm just gonna lump it together under folders.

    Shaped like itself (not even a metaphor) 

  • Arthur:
    • The Big Boss Bars in "To Eat or Not to Eat" are highly addictive, which could cause some viewers to think of drug addiction. As per the entry on G-Rated Drug, the candy is all but confirmed to have a fictional drug in it, so I'm unsure if it's even allegorical.
  • Dexter's Laboratory :
    • "Figure Not Included" in Season 2 is basically reminiscent of arguments over fan fiction and which fandoms are best when The Major Glory Gang, supposedly Dexter's friends but (who are never seen again after this episode), especially during the scene where they're arguing over which Major Glory figure has the best features. Then the next part where the friends argue about the toys being cheap junk seems reminiscent of arguments over Chinese products and quality control, and then the final scene with Major Glory taking Dexter to see his attorney over copyright is reminiscent of arguments over copyleft-vs-copyright and Public Domain that came about in The New '10s, something that has become particularly notorious as a Flame War topic as much as politics has. Fandoms already existed back then and fighting over action figures is something fandoms do in real life, it's not a metaphor. There might be something to the last part though, and the part about The New '10s is more Values Resonance.
  • Invader Zim:
    • Irken society is structured around height, to the point that leaders are chosen solely due to being taller than everyone else. This definitely has parallels to real life. '''So heightism is a metaphor for... heightism?"
  • My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic:
    • This sort of thing is fairly common for Spike, going all the way back to his barely-concealed desire for a ticket to the Grand Galloping Gala in the third episode. By far the most evocative incident, however, is the Running Gag throughout "A Canterlot Wedding" wherein he is repeatedly caught playing with pony dolls.
    • Similarly, "Read It and Weep" has Rainbow Dash initially dismissive of the Daring Do books, reading one out of curiosity, becoming completely obsessed, embarrassed by her obsession and going to absurd lengths to try and hide it from anyone who might tease her. It's basically one huge reference to the "bronies", and subcultures in general. Both of these sound like Real Men Wear Pink jokes or fandom jokes that don't go far enough to be brony allegories specifically.
    • Pinkie Pie's Sanity Slippage in "Party of One" is uncomfortably similar to mental illnesses such as manic-depression and paranoid schizophrenia, complete with drastic personality changes, mood swings, and full-blown hallucinations. I think it's just Sanity Slippage. There's no specific mental illness but it uses the tropes of fictional mental breakdowns.
    • In "Stranger than Fan Fiction", Rainbow Dash encounters a fellow Daring Do fan who despises anything in the series outside of the original trilogy. Like the Dexter's Lab thing, this is just normal fandom behavior. Daring Do is an Indiana Jones expy and the fans of that franchise have similar feelings about Sequelitis, so it's not even Star Wars exclusive.
  • South Park:
    • "Best Friends Forever" was a thinly veiled satire of the media hooplah over the Terri Schiavo case, with a battle against The Legions of Hell thrown in for good measure. It wasn't really a metaphor though. Kenny was in the same situation as Schiavo, barring the heaven/hell angle; it wasn't allegorical.
  • SpongeBob SquarePants:
    • Ever get lost while taking public transportation? Chances are you wound up in a place that feels just as alien and creepy as Rock Bottom.

    Accidental Innuendo 
  • Invader Zim:
    • Dib using water against Zim in "The Wettening" crosses over into BDSM territory on a few occasions, in particular when he merely opens a tap behind Zim and watches with a growing smirk of satisfaction as he twitches and shudders with every drop that hits the sink. In the same episode, Zim covers himself completely with paste, white and sticky paste.
    • The first episode has a lot of date rape implications. Having just met Zim, Dib decides the most appropriate course of action is to handcuff him. With handcuffs that, in his words, render aliens "completely helpless". Handcuffs that he was carrying with him for the slight possibility that he might encounter an alien. Sleep cuffs, to be exact. Both of these sound like they're reading far too into it.
  • Mega Man (Ruby-Spears):
  • My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic:
    • In the episode "Lesson Zero", Big Macintosh is holding onto a doll that Twilight enchanted so that anypony that looked at it would desperately want it. First, Big Macintosh got a hold of it, and suddenly everypony from town starts chasing after him for it. They all end up crowding him and piling on top of him for it. Now, if the doll weren't there...
      • How the doll got that way isn't much better: a disheveled, clearly-unstable Twilight Sparkle approached a group of fillies who are close friends playing in the park, offering them a doll, even "enchanting" it when they didn't go for it at first. People make Memetic Molester jokes about this moment but in context it really just looks like a crazy woman.
    • In "Putting Your Hoof Down" Fluttershy tells another pony to "go to the back of the line where you belong!" To put it in perspective, Fluttershy's a pegasus, while the addressee is an earth pony (as are all of the other ponies in line that subsequently move to the back). I think this is just people making a joke about optics. In context, she cut in front of Fluttershy.
    • On the Ho Yay page, there's an image of Twilight Sparkle holding Rainbow Dash's face very close to hers as if she's about to kiss her taken from "Lesson Zero". This wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the preceding line:
      Twilight Sparkle: Oh Rainbow Dash, you don't have to hide your feelings from me. '''The page image was cut, and this is unintentional Ho Yay, in context it's about Rainbow Dash allegedly having a friendship issue, which could be this trope if the romance subtext was played up (given Applejack and Rainbow have Ship Tease in the finale).
    • "The Cutie Map" centers on the Mane Six going to a dystopian village where everyone has given up their cutie marks so that they're all "equal" and nobody will be better than anybody, which is a lot like communism.
      • In the same episode, one of the local ponies ask the Mane Six to meet her in a basement where "no pony can see what's about to happen". It didn't help that they were confronted by said pony and two others in a very creepy manner. Thankfully the ponies only wanted to know what it was like to have a cutie mark. If this show wasn't rated TV-Y... The first part is valid, the second is just reading into things.
    • This scene from "The Cutie Re-Mark". Everything from Twilight's creepy way of asking Rainbow Dash to do "something" for her and Rainbow Dash's clearly horrified and uncomfortable reaction is reminiscent of a Bad Samaritan. Same here.
  • The Powerpuff Girls (1998)
    • The scene in "Cover Up" where a monster walks up to Buttercup (the latter which is lying down on the ground) and she says "No..." could easily be though of as a rape scene without context. If you have to take it out of context it's not an example. This just sounds like a scared child.
  • In The Real Ghostbusters and the sequel Extreme Ghostbusters
    • The grundel is often compared to a pedophile that stalks children. In the age of social media and pedophiles using it to contact and groom children, the parallel is even more obvious. Grundel is a lot like a pedophile in a chat room or on some other social media/chat website or app. Not sure about the original but if this predates social media then the parallel is unintentional.
    • Another possible pedophile/molestation metaphor is the Boogie Man. Basically, Boogie Man can be interpreted as a metaphor for child abuse and molestation where the victim is often not believed. The way Egon reacts is similar to the way an adult victim of molestation or abuse would. The "can be" makes me suspect Applicability at best without other context.
  • In The Smurfs (1981) episode "A Hug For Grouchy", the story of Grouchy running away from Smurfs who were stalking him and pouncing on him to give him a hug on Hug-A-Smurf Day, whether he wanted one or not, could be construed as an allegory for rape. I don't think this is intentional because looking it up, the hugs were meant to be a good thing to some extent.

    Other accidental subtext 

  • Dexter's Laboratory :
    • Major Glory, a Captain America Expy and his patriotism, is frighteningly similar at times to gung-ho "all-American" individuals who can fall into Conspiracy Theorist, and his over-the-top manner of speech is reminiscent of Trumplica types or grandiose politicians with an "America First" plan. Not sure about the rest of the entry (I didn't watch those sections of the show but I assume it's probably patriotism in itself, and thus not a metaphor) but he wouldn't be a political Trumplica as the show predates his presidency by decades.
  • Futurama:
    • In "A Leela of Her Own", the other female Blernsball player claiming Leela is actually making it harder for "real women" to succeed resembles relationships between trans and non-trans women. The line is "real female ballplayers," with the "real" referring to "ballplayers" (because Leela is only in the game for Bile Fascination about how she sucks) not "female." This episode also predates an episode that makes fun of transitioning and is very much not about the trans athlete controversy — the allegory doesn't even make sense, because the claims people make about trans women is about biological "advantages," and Leela's issue in this episode is essentially a Fictional Disability.
  • Mina's friendship with Trina on Grojband is somewhat portrayed like an abusive relationship. Mina is very submissive to Trina and obsessed with pleasing her to the point of Les Yay, while Trina does nothing but scream and yell at her, force her to do everything her way, and even physically harm her. I've seen this show and I think this is unintentional Les Yay, because this is just standard Alpha Bitch behavior and not played with Homoerotic Subtext as far as I remember.
  • My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic'
    • Conversely, Fluttershy's Sanity Slippage in "The Best Night Ever" involves her stalking animals she's trying to force to befriend her, even to the point of trying to trap them in a net. It's remarkably similar to the portrayal of a Clingy Jealous Girl and a Yandere, complete with the line "You're... going to LOVE ME!" I don't think there's enough to push it into romantic subtext. It just got memed on that way.
  • Pepper Ann:
  • The Ren & Stimpy Show:
    • In "Sven Hoek" Ren goes on a psycho rant where he describes how he's going to torture Sven and Stimpy. Poor Sven and Stimpy are crying and hugging each other, shaking in pure terror, during the whole thing. It can remind some people of how little kids react when they are abused by their parents. Their reactions just sell the scene and make it even more disturbing. I think it's fair to react this way to someone terrorizing you even if they're not a parent, and this doesn't give indications that Ren is meant to be read as a parent in other ways in this episode.

There's also some examples (like the one about Ed Edd n Eddy) that read like unintentional Ho Yay as opposed to intentional subtext but I can't quite call that. There's probably more than this but my eyes kinda glazed over near the end.

Edited by mightymewtron on Mar 1st 2024 at 11:49:24 AM

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#17: Mar 1st 2024 at 5:54:22 AM

[up]I agree that all of these can go for the reasons given.

Also, how in the hell do you watch "A Leela of Her Own" and see Jackie's dissing of Leela as some sort of transphobic allegory? She was very clearly mad at Leela because she herself was an actual blernsball player and Leela only got novelty-act attention due to being comically unsuited to play. Sorry, but this has made me actively angry.

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#18: Mar 11th 2024 at 12:51:22 PM

From Rope:

  • Does This Remind You of Anything?: Brandon and Phillip's respective behavior during the party resembles the difference between extroverts and introverts. Brandon (in his own twisted way) fits in with the other guests during the story and comes out of the party feeling invigorated and satisfied. Phillip (granted, he's wrestling with his guilt) acts uncomfortable or awkward during the entire social event while surrounded by people or conversing with them, and comes out of the experience emotionally drained.
I know Does This Remind You of Anything? doesn't have to imply something sexual, but I feel this is more contrasting forms of characterization rather than something evocative or suggestive. Am I missing something here?

Edited by Diesel on Mar 11th 2024 at 1:23:10 AM

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#19: Mar 12th 2024 at 7:56:39 AM

Yeah, that's just those characters.. having different personalities, and a way that shows how guilt is affecting them (a lot vs. not). I'd say cut.

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